Originally posted by lil bitchiness
I should re-name this thread''What should this thread's name be'' name.
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I guess you have a point though, although I think that this was a pretty stupid idea for a thread anyway, fitting everything in history that involves Hitler & the Nazi government into one thread seems sort of stupid as Nazi's did a heck of a lot.
Originally posted by §P0oONY
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I guess you have a point though, although I think that this was a pretty stupid idea for a thread anyway, fitting everything in history that involves Hitler & the Nazi government into one thread seems sort of stupid as Nazi's did a heck of a lot.
We could have an on topic discussion of some kind...the other option is a thead close.
Originally posted by Bardock42
Dammit, now I came here for some good Jew hating and suddenly no one wants it anymore....
WE could go back on topic, or I could jsut close this thread and you can all start a new one - with thought out title and on topic discussion.
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Originally posted by Bardock42
Dammit, now I came here for some good Jew hating and suddenly no one wants it anymore....
lol That's terrible...Funny, but terrible.
Originally posted by lil bitchiness
We could have an on topic discussion of some kind...the other option is a thead close.WE could go back on topic, or I could jsut close this thread and you can all start a new one - with thought out title and on topic discussion.
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So yeah, how about that Third Reich.
both had a lot to do with it.
the Nazi party is the quintessential example of a mass party (I'll explain the concept if someone wants me to, but I assume you know what mass party is) Which had a very strong appeal at that time (and later on). Along with the fact that facism and extrem-right were seen as general alternatives for democracy. Which was considered as a failing form of government at the time.
However the importance of the failing weimar republic along with the serious economic consequences can not be denied.
Both, The Wiemar State was creating a great deal of poverty due to hyper inflation and the reparations being payed for the war crimes Germany apparently committed during WWI, the Nazi party was seen as the solution to these problems, with powerful rally speeches by Adolf, damning the Treaty of Versailles and the 'November Criminals' who signed it. Hitler played an important role in the Munich Putsch, which lead to his arrest for treason, this increased the popularity of the Nazi party as Hitler's trial was publicised to make him look like a hero, the time Hitler spent in prison was used to formulate a plan, which we all know as Mein Kampf.
I wouldn't say Hitler's trial was "publicised to make him look like a hero," it was in-fact what Hitler himself said that made people view him the way they did.
HOWEVER
You clearly overestimate the importance of the trial. Lets not forget that in 1923 Gustav Streesmann, perhaps one of the most able politicians in history, effectively brought the end to Hyperinflation on his own and as Foreign Secretary stimulated foreign investment in Germany, because of this, most German's only talked about Hitler and his Nazi Party as the butt of jokes. Hitler only became popular after the Wall Street Crash which caused Germany's great depression.
Overestimated the importance of the trial? I really didn't, the trial wasn't half as important to the rise of the Nazi party as the reason why he was in the trial in the 1st place. You're right abut the wall street crash though, my memory on the subject is a little sketchy as I have not studied the causes of WWII in about 4 years.
Originally posted by §P0oONY
Overestimated the importance of the trial? I really didn't, the trial wasn't half as important to the rise of the Nazi party as the reason why he was in the trial in the 1st place. You're right abut the wall street crash though, my memory on the subject is a little sketchy as I have not studied the causes of WWII in about 4 years.
What exactly is the topic of the thread?
I'd say the number 2 man was Goering. But Goebbles and Himmler were not too far behind.
As to why Hitler came to power, I'd say it was a combination of the results of WW1, the fact that there was no significant opposition to the Nazis, the paranoia over Jews and the practically useless constitution. As well as his ability to give speeches. He was certainly one of the greatest orators of all time. But, also, don't forget he didn't take Germany by storm as so many people think. He was handed power by Hindenburg. There were several leaders of political parties, but none as well recieved by the people and the reichstag as was Hitler
Originally posted by Capt_Fantastic
What exactly is the topic of the thread?I'd say the number 2 man was Goering. But Goebbles and Himmler were not too far behind.
As to why Hitler came to power, I'd say it was a combination of the results of WW1, the fact that there was no significant opposition to the Nazis, the paranoia over Jews and the practically useless constitution. As well as his ability to give speeches. He was certainly one of the greatest orators of all time. But, also, don't forget he didn't take Germany by storm as so many people think. He was handed power by Hindenburg. There were several leaders of political parties, but none as well recieved by the people and the reichstag as was Hitler
No, Hindenburg didn't hand Hitler power, in fact he did everything to stop him getting the post of Chancellor but when Hindenburg ran out of options he had to appoint Hitler Chancellor, and let's remember Hitler persuaded Hindenburg that there was a Red Revolution in the works and thats why Hindenburg allowed him to pass the Enabling law.