Kun: chased down by a group of Massassi. Luke cuts his way through an army. Economic principles.
Kun: still believes himself dedicated to the Light even though he finds himself blocked to it.
Oh, I'm sorry, I guess the concept of context escapes you.
: "He became the Force, the Force became him."
And this is a quote from what? And this says what about his natural power? Nothing?
Luke in the Black Fleet crisis, Dark Empire...star ships and AT ATs down down.
Contruct a sentence and then get back to me.
A Jedi artifact not made for fighting, my God! That's SUCH power! Wow, to destroy a HOLOCRON!
Not surprising, you've failed to grasp a point.
On the one hand you have Luke who destroyed inanimate objects while still connected to his body and not insane.
On the other hand we have Kun who also destroyed inanimate objects while seperated from his body for 4000 years and half-insane.
Hm. Looks like his feat is laid to waste.
"The less sentience, the more power require.d" Planet of Twilight. Your opinion makes no difference.
Oh ho, so it isn't from the same source material? Looks like your claim is questionable then, especially since you refuse to provide context.
Palpatine froze an entire planet: Coruscant, to have Lusankya buried...then wiped their minds. Wow, suddenly the senate ain't so impressive...
Oh, you mean Darth "Dictator for Life" Sidious who could merely have ordered his citizens out of the general area (at least for the time being) and mind-wiped those who remained?
Right, that one.
Kun's so weak he needs Nadd to heal himself? Luke had every bone in his body broken and healed himself completely...if every Jedi could do that, why was Kun sobbing to Nadd for help?
Mostly because the Light was blocked to him and he was still a Jedi Knight and had not embraced the dark side?
Oh, and stop inserting your unsupported assumptions: There aren't any sobs depicted.
Luke also knows electric lightning, mortichro...engineered to kill Vong? Please..IKC bullshit assumptions ahoy! It worked on Kiliks too
Oh, it worked on Killiks? Provide the quote then, I'm sure we're all on the edges of our seats now that you've found the only other instance of Luke using the trick.
Wow, Luke knows force lightning... Count Dooku knows it too, is he a Force god?
Yaddle knew Mortichro. Is she a Force goddess? Oh, and remind me again how Mortichro is lethal? It isn't? Remind me again how it can't be resisted? Oh, it can?
Huh.
Wow, Kun's power hit the Senate! You eman...it hit its target? Luke's SHOCKWAVES out of duel were dropping people dead in their tracks...and what retcons? Time to prove up, IKC! I see your mouth flapping but no proof coming out! Where's the goddamn retcon?
No, Luke, Palpatine's, Leia's, and unborn Anakin's "shockwaves" were felt.
Oh, and the retcons exist in the little comic series called TOTJ. I don't know if you've ever heard of it? It establishes a whole host of beings more powerful than Palpatine or Skywalker.
Proof every Jedi was NEEDED for Kun! After all, wasn't Vodo just enough for Ulic? Kun didn't even TRY to fight and ran for his life....was Kun's power felt by every force sensitive in the galaxy? No, ok then...nice non sequitor, though!
I hope you know that "proof" is not a verb (at least not in the context under which you use it).
Apparently the Jedi thought they were needed, inasmuch as they went. And Kun ran? First I've heard of it. Wow, Kun didn't try to fight the most powerful, concentrated force of Light Siders the galaxy has ever seen singlehandedly. What a fool and a weakling he must have been since he didn't even try to fight thousands upon thousands of Jedi orbiting above his moon!
Oh, wait. That would've been stupid.
Oh, and Kun was felt by them. Or did we forget that Kun's outcry (described by Ulic: "A sound... like a man being eaten alive... or is it the wind?) as he is healed caused Master Arca to stop in mid-speech as the entire assembly of Jedi on Deneba heard him?
Oops. Funny, Kun's power alone was heard by all the Jedi, whereas it took a battle between Luke and Sidious (well, and Leia and Anakin) for them to be felt by Force-sensitives. Looks like Kun outweighs them by this logic.
Brakiss who was playing around with a star just to teach Zekk and was insinuated to have the ability to blow up Stars if he so desired? "I hope I never have to..." was his response when Zekk asked him, and he grew very troubled over the question.
Looks like you're ignoring the fact that Brakiss was sent running by a couple of droids and got blown up when some Royal Guard pretenders set his ship to explode.
That and Luke didn't even fight him, apparently.
How are dovin bassals different than black holes except in size? Still more than Kun ever did.
How are they different? Less matter, for one. There's also the fact that it's still mere telekinesis, and Kyp still replicated the feat.
And it's still irrelevant misdirection. Kun has telekinesis as well.
What the hell do you think illusions arE? Guess you better shut up about Sadow's power!
Problem is you've failed to grasp context. Sadow's (and Aleema's) illusions were tangible and could hurt/kill enemies. They required him to maintain constant concentration. This is in contrast to Luke's trick with the planet, which didn't require his own power and thus was less impressive a feat because of it.
Luke was described a very powerful force user in Truce at Bakura and the Thrawn Trilogy and in Dark Empire. And he took on Vader in ROTJ. OMG, bad choregraphy means what? Right, NOTHING!
Actually, "bad choreography" means they fought like shit. I guess Vader's emotional conflict (even mentioned explicitly by Luke) means nothing, either?
Sure, Luke's powerful in comparison to everybody else... which is to say, nobody. Who else was around to compare him to? Joruus, maybe? Screwball Joruus?
Yeah, because all force users can move around star ships and war machines!
I guess I must have imagined Yoda lifting an X-Wing out of the swamp without apparent exertion on his part.
Well, if wiping out blacks teams was so unimpressive, why was Arca shot in the back?
Well if you truly know how to debate, why do you keep bringing up irrelevant misdirections?
If you truly know how to read, why do you show no apparent reading comprehension and reply with inanities to my points?
Here, I'll post it again: A feat that no other could possibly replicate if put into identical circumstances! Oh, wait... I guess they could.
Try again. I'll be back later to see if you've grasped anything.