Count Dooku versus Yoda

Dooku did not lose the force battle. Dooku was on the offencive and couldnt get a hit because Yoda blocked him.Yoda didnt do any force attacks (why we dont know) but from the movie they clearly stalemated.

The lightsaber duel was also stalemated with neither being avle to strike down their opponent. Dooku did leave but for what reason we dont know. He might have known clones were coming, maybe he had to meet Palpatine, MAYBE Yoda was winning. We just dont know. I mean he could have needed to take a shit for all we know. But the fact remains that neither bet the other in both force abilities and saber skills.

Originally posted by BLAK FOX
Did he not have the plans for the death star on him?

From what I saw, neither one of them had any edge over another. it was a complete stalemate. I think the outcome of this fight would depend on who tires out the quickest.

Originally posted by BLAK FOX
From what I saw, neither one of them had any edge over another. it was a complete stalemate. I think the outcome of this fight would depend on who tires out the quickest.

Glad that what you think is only your opinion. However, both the movie [from what I saw], the script from what I've read, and the obvious consensus all trumps your opinion.

Originally posted by Antediluvian
Unfortunately, It is.

Dooku was effectively defeated by Yoda. Bottom line.

Yep, 'cos we saw Yoda standing still and parrying Dooku's attacks? Oops!

That version of the script and therefore the novelisation, is not indicative of what happened...

Originally posted by Swirly Girl
Yep, 'cos we saw Yoda standing still and parrying Dooku's attacks? Oops!

That version of the script and therefore the novelisation, is not indicative of what happened...

Are you talking about the "doesn't budge an inch" bit? I'm pretty sure this is referring to his defenses, not his actual movements per se.

Not really. It's more implied that Yoda stands still, and Dooku hammers away at him.

If it is true, why do we never see Yoda unleashing blow after blow on Dooku. The fight was virtually a stalemate.

Their was not a victor nor was there a loser. This means it was a stalemate. I dont know why Yoda didnt attack in the force battle. Yes he did block the Counts force assaults with relative ease but there is no reason to say that Dooku couldnt block Yodas. And we cant say that because Dooku offered the lightsaber battle that he was losing the force battle. That is a massive assumption.
The lightsaber battle was also stalemated. We clearly see neither being able to hit the other. You keep saying Yoda didnt budge an inch. Whoopdi doo. He managed to block the Counts attacks. Nothing particularly special. We saw Dooku blocking Yodas attacks. Does that mean he was doing better. No. It doesnt. So that argument goes right out the door.
I will say that Yoda did what he came to do. Protected Kenobi and Anakin. But he didnt beat Dooku. Dooku left. Why we dont know. We just cant say that he left because he was losing, because it would only be an assumption.
If the battle had kept going Dooku would have won. They were both tiring and I hope we can agree that yoda would tire first because of their respective styles.

Ox, your so biased it's not even funny. No one pay attention to his comments.

How is that biased. Whats biased is you saying that Yoda won the force battle when we saw him do NOTHING in the force battle and that Yoda won the lightsaber duel when nobody managed to defeat the other. That is biased.

That he forced Dooku to pull otu his saber while doing 'nothing' is proof of his superiority....once more, Dooku ran and realized he couldn't win.
Quote from the adaptation: "Dooku realizes he is not the strongest after all."

Because Dooku pulled out his saber doesnt mean he lost the force battle!!!!!! It might mean that he thinks he can take Yoda out faster with a lightsaber than with the force because he was pressed for time. The place was swarming with jedi and he had the plans for the death star in his freakin pocket. Sounds like a good enough reason to get the hell out of there!

I repeat: "Dooku realizes he is not the strongest after all."

Meh, it was made pretty clear that Yoda was Dooku's superior in the force.

I dont understand how you can all think that Yoda is better in the force when he did nothing!!! He stopped the roof falling on him. So what. It was the Count that ripped the roof down in the first place. They stalemated because neither bet the other. There is absolutely no evidence what so ever that Yoda won. In fact I would say Dooku did because he actually did something. But I wont because it was clearly stalemated.
The lightsaber battle had to have stalemated because neither had won. They couldnt land a blow on their opponent. Or you could look at it like this. Yoda came to protect Kenobi/Anakin and succeeded. Meaning he won. Dooku initially went to the hangar to get into his ship and leave (as seen before Kenobi/Anakin arrived) and eventually managed to do that. Which means he also won. Whatever way you look at it they stalemated because neither defeated the other.

Why is there even a thread about this? Yoda is the most powerful out of all the OT characters in terms of saber combat alone.

Yoda pwns Dooku in the force battle...

He says "Much to learn you still have" to Dooku, that's basically Yoda's equivalent of laughing at Dooku.

Its pretty obvious that Yoda wasent at all concerned with Dooku's force "assault".

Point taken but that doesnt mean he won the battle. If he was really as good as everyone thinks he is why didnt he finish Dooku off then and there with the force? He didnt which means it resulted in a stalemate. I dont doubt that Yoda might have been able to win but in that particular battle Yoda did nothing which means it stalemated.

Why didn't he finish off Dooku? Lets see, he didn't come in there with the intention to kill anybody, Dooku threw that big boulder on top of Anakin and Obiwan so Yoda had to stop it, and you've just proven the point that Yoda is superior to Dooku by saying "Yoda did nothing and they stalemated". Obviously if Yoda was on his game, Dooku would have been owned.

No, the point I am trying to make is how do you think Yoda won the force battle when he did nothing. It was stalemated because neither managed to beat the opponent. If Yoda had participated he MIGHT have won the force battle but he didnt so it ended up being a stalemate.

Dooku gets