Originally posted by PVS
im happy you would accept it...?
but are you telling me that if, for the sake of argument they did that, christians would be comfortable and compliant? they wouldnt take it as christian persecution? no?
Whatever. I think ALL religion is bull. Why religion is afforded the same legal protections as race, gender, age, etc. is beyond me. If this is indeed a deterrant to suicide bombers then I'm all for it.
Originally posted by PVS
YEAH RACISM!!!! hey i have an idea!!! lets take these radical baptists who find joy in troops being killed, crucify them on top of the highest hill, and jam communion hosts dipped in shit down their throats!!! 😱oh i know, NOW its tasteless religion bashing?
I like that idea.
Re: A way to deter suicide bombers
Originally posted by Darth_Erebus
I like the idea
Nah, why sacrifice a good pig to wrap an idiotic extremist? I'd much rather use the pig for links, chops, bacon, ham...etc...save the pigs just exterminate the terrorist.
Originally posted by PVS
if you would support any religious persecution, i doubt you ever will succeed in seeing the point. im sure however that my point would strike a nerve with any devout christian, and really thats my target audience anyway.
I don't quite follow your posts in this thread.
Particulary when you repretedly mention christians, which are, not the point or any important factor of the article.
Article is explicitly refering to Jews and Muslims...why are christians important?
Not to mention the fact that the guy who wrote the article is a Jew NOT a Christian.
Perhaps you recognise yourself in something thats been said in the article, just about Christianity, as opposed to Judaism or Islam.
jews? if i'm not mistaken (i could be) an orthodox jew would suffer the same fate as a muslem with regards to execution with use of pigs blood/meat/entrails etc...right? so no point in preaching to a jew who would bring this up...since if he failed to see the hypocrisy in his own statements...well what can i possibly say?
but again: target audience aka people reading/discussing this.
you know....forum...."i agree"...followed by my "i feel you should disagree because.......blah blah blah"....discussion....interaction...that sort of thing. unless you really feel i need to go on a personal inward journey of my own spirituality and prejudice? or perhaps you're just reading way too far past the stated obvious and my manner of sharing my own logic.
now as for the more contemporary jew i would have to do some research into their religious culture to find an equally offensive manner of putting the shoe on the other foot....any ideas?
Originally posted by PVS
as i said: target audience a.k.a. people reading this thread.Jews? if i'm not mistaken (i could be) an orthodox jew would suffer the same fate as a muslem with regards to execution with use of pigs blood/meat/entrails etc...right? so no point in preaching to a jew who would bring this up...since if he failed to see the hypocrisy in his own statements...well what can i possibly say?
now as for the more contemporary jew i would have to do some research into their religious culture to find an equally offensive manner of putting the shoe on the other foot....any ideas?
I had to go back adn re-read the quote you posted.
''im sure however that my point would strike a nerve with any devout Christian, and really thats my target audience anyway.''
There is nothing in that quote to suggest that your target audience are people reading this thread - because majority of us are not Christian, as a matter of fact.
Besides, your point is cool -you make a point about pork and Muslims and Jews and thats fine - i can see what you are saying.
However, you have still not explained to me why you brought Christians into this, when the article explicitly deals with Jews and Muslims.
That is the point which is unclear to me.
The guy writing the article is a Jewish man who is expressing an opinion aobut the way his people are seen and treated by Muslims. His people being Jews.
There is just no talk of Christians, apart from them being your target audience...which i still find hard to comprehend without coming to conclusion that your plain discrimination and hatred of christians cannot pass unmentioned even in a thread which does not discuss Christians or their belief.
Originally posted by lil bitchiness
I had to go back adn re-read the quote you posted.''im sure however that my point would strike a nerve with [b]any devout Christian
, and really thats my target audience anyway.''There is nothing in that quote to suggest that your target audience are people reading this thread - because majority of us are not Christian, as a matter of fact.[/B]
do i have to be all inclusive? well shit lil b, thats quite a tall order. and how do i handle an agnostic or athiest?
Originally posted by PVS
now as for the more contemporary jew i would have to do some research into their religious culture to find an equally offensive manner of putting the shoe on the other foot....any ideas?
No, because Judaism tends not to hold such ideas - particularly towards Christians or Muslims because, if you remember history, they all came after Judaism, and pretty much plagiarised their religion according to their like and gave it a different name.
Originally posted by lil bitchiness
No, because Judaism tends not to hold such ideas - particularly towards Christians or Muslims because, if you remember history, they all came after Judaism, and pretty much plagiarised their religion according to their like and gave it a different name.
yeah, i know that. but i've seen many contemporary jews eat pork, and not a peep in any of my catholicism classes about the evils of pig flesh.
lil b. we are splitting hairs over nothing and roaming around in ad hominem land.
you saw my point, admitted it was a good one, and maybe im just too damn lazy to repackage that point for every other religion and sect of said religions. maybe you can finish the job for me. 😛
i picked christianity because its easiest, since i am a christian. agnostic i admit, but would still take great offense to the method i hypothetically brought up being practiced
Originally posted by PVS
do i have to be all inclusive? well shit lil b, thats quite a tall order. and how do i handle an agnostic or athiest?
Just answer my question please.
That could help, because instead of a long post refering to everything else I said, you can answer my question and I will be able to better understand what you meant.
I don't mean to argue, i mean to understand how your logic works, because if i don't i will continue to conclude things in the way they are written...perhaps wrongly.
''....why you brought Christians into this, when the article explicitly deals with Jews and Muslims?''