Wild Speculation on Year 7(HBP SPOILERS)

Originally posted by jahunt06
I think that Dumbledore is dead. I agree about the funeral being too final, too serious for Jo to not be serious. And while we're speculating about Book 7....

I do believe that Snape was meant to kill Dumbledore, and Dumbledore wanted him too. Remember the conversation in the forest that Hagrid overheard? Dumbledore was saying that Snape had promised to do something, and Snape was questioning it, thinking that Dumbledore was "assuming too much." I think Dumbledore knew that his death was part of the greater scheme of things, and perhaps would be the cause of something good. I just know that Dumbledore would not have let Draco's plans go through unchallenged if there weren't a reason Dumbledore should die. DUmbledore made it very clear at the end of HBP that he knew what Draco was doing all along, and he knew about Snape's Unbreakable Vow. Yet he allowed both people to be in the castle.
Also, I know that Snape is trustworthy. Rowling said that Dumbledore was never very far wide of the mark, and I believe that if Snape was not trustworthy she would not have said this. That would be an assumption very far wide of the mark; to falsely trust your own killer! I believe he knew Snape would end up killing him, and had planned it that way from the beginning.

About Harry being a Horcrux, or his scar being a Horcrux...Based on what JK has said, that Dumbledore is never very far from the truth, his scar really is just that; a scar from the killing curse. I know everyone says "It doesn't leave a marK!" But Dumbledore said in response to that that the killing curse does not usually leave a mark, however the exception is "sitting before me." Harry was, of course, sitting before Dumbledore. Also, the six horcruxes, and Voldemort's soul in his body, are pretty well known. I do not think Dumbledore's guesses were wrong, but he was vague about a relic of Ravenclaw's or Griffindor's. Some say that Harry is a relic of Griffindor, but I think not. He may be related (ie Godric's Hollow) but the idea of putting a Horcrux in Harry presents too many obstacles: "Can a person be killed, then imparted with a Horcrux? Wouldn't killing Harry destroy the soul piece by causing it to flee Harry's body (which is exactly what the Killing Curse does)? It was "mortally painful" for Voldemort to enter Harry's mind, even with Harry's blood. So how would his soul survive being imparted onto Harry?

Anyways, I'm rambling, tell me what you think. And please, challenge it if you have evidence.

Wow... I totally agree with Snape being trustworthy 😄. I however disagree, and believe that Harry's scar is a horcrux. I believe maybe it was an accident that Voldemort put part of his soul into Harry, however i have nothing to go on, no evidence to support this, except for the fact that Harry can sense what Voldy Poo is feeling, and can see some of what Voldy Poo is doing. 😕 But I guess we will just have to wait and see *sigh*

OMFG OMFG OM FG LMAO LMAO LMAO!!!!! DD IS DED KILLED MURDERED BUT SNAPE IS INOCENT BOTH CAN DO OCCLUMENCY AND THEY WER HAVIN A ROW EARLIER WEN SNAPE SED IM BEING WORKED TO HARD OR THAT HES STRESSED OUT TO MUCH BUT DD IS DED. AS FOR HIS BROTHER HOO ALSO IS THE BARMAN OF THE HOGSHEAD HE MIGHT HELP OUT HARRY ALONG WIT SNAPE AND THE OTHER OOTP PEOPLE.!!.. AND IF U THINK BOUT THE THEORIE THAT A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF PPL HARRY LOVES HAVE TO DIE UNTIL HARRY CAN DEFEAT VOLDY THEN DD IS DED ALSO IF DD WASNT DED HE WOULD REVEAL HIMSELF TO HARRY BECAUSE HE IS LIKE A FATHER FIGURE TO HARRY AND HARRY WOPULD FEEL A SENSE OF REJOICE AT DD COMING BAK. ALSO IF HARRY FOUND OUT TAT DD WAS HIDIN FROM HIM HARRY'D BE TOTALLY PISSED OFF AT DD. SO NO HES DED WONT COME BAK AND WILL ONLY TALK TO HARRY THRO THE POTRAIT.ALSO I THINK SOMETHING WILL HAPPEN WITH THE MIROR SIRIUS GAVE HARRY.

Originally posted by ndfreak
OMFG OMFG OM FG LMAO LMAO LMAO!!!!! DD IS DED KILLED MURDERED BUT SNAPE IS INOCENT BOTH CAN DO OCCLUMENCY AND THEY WER HAVIN A ROW EARLIER WEN SNAPE SED IM BEING WORKED TO HARD OR THAT HES STRESSED OUT TO MUCH BUT DD IS DED. AS FOR HIS BROTHER HOO ALSO IS THE BARMAN OF THE HOGSHEAD HE MIGHT HELP OUT HARRY ALONG WIT SNAPE AND THE OTHER OOTP PEOPLE.!!.. AND IF U THINK BOUT THE THEORIE THAT A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF PPL HARRY LOVES HAVE TO DIE UNTIL HARRY CAN DEFEAT VOLDY THEN DD IS DED ALSO IF DD WASNT DED HE WOULD REVEAL HIMSELF TO HARRY BECAUSE HE IS LIKE A FATHER FIGURE TO HARRY AND HARRY WOPULD FEEL A SENSE OF REJOICE AT DD COMING BAK. ALSO IF HARRY FOUND OUT TAT DD WAS HIDIN FROM HIM HARRY'D BE TOTALLY PISSED OFF AT DD. SO NO HES DED WONT COME BAK AND WILL ONLY TALK TO HARRY THRO THE POTRAIT.ALSO I THINK SOMETHING WILL HAPPEN WITH THE MIROR SIRIUS GAVE HARRY.

I agree 😄

it's interesting theory(but, i think it's just a theory), that Voldemort put the part of his soul in Harry's body, because as someone said that dumbledore put his in phoenix, so that he'll never gonna die, because of the power of rebirth, so that Voldemort thought that if his destiny is to die ONLY by a hand of Harry's he chosen to play safe and put his soul, and since he believes that worst fear of people is dying, and harry would not kill himself or let others do that, that means that actually Voldemort will not die...
confused writing accomplished🙂

Also some q:
In the HBP, near the end, in the cave Dumbl. said that the magical boat measures quantity of magic, so only one magician can pass, and since drinking the potion needs at least two persons, it would have to be or under-aged wizards or something like Filch, or even muggles, so that R.A.B. means few people...
what do you think
p.s. forget my gram. and other mistakes, since english isn't my native🙂

One more thing:-)
In the HBP when Dumbledore and Harry went into memory in which D. speaks with young V. and discovers that y.V. can move thing with his mind(telekinesis) or actualise will(hurting people just by thinking of it), and in some book someone said that D. is equally powerful as V. and it never has anything with his age(Dumbl.) but the power he has within him, it's possible that young D. would also had special powers in youth, probably similar to V. Point is that when Drako used exp. spell and remove wand from D. hand, could D. use some of his special powers and eliminate Drako's wand, then use it in defence...
second point is that he planed it from the start...
but there's some confusing line in which D. seeks help from Snape when Harry and himself saw the Deatheat. mark above the tower, he wouldn't do that if there was a planned scenario between Snape and him...

About the petrificus tot. spell:
remember when harry used lumos spell in third book without touching wand, so D. could deactivate his spell but that's just too organized, D. is great but that perfect, i don't think so...

all young wizards have power that just happens, only difference is Voldy could control it.

My god, all of you are asking questions that were already answered.

Originally posted by allofyousuckkk
all young wizards have power that just happens, only difference is Voldy could control it.

My god, all of you are asking questions that were already answered.

Wow, you've missed the point entirely...

My point was if Vol. could do it, Dumbl.>(more power)Voldem. so Dumbl. also could do it, at the same rate, if not greater, than V.

All wizards, yes, but not with same efficiency, since Dumb. was(hahaha) the greatest wizard, he was supposed to do some non-wand magic on Drako, pull out his wand, use it in his defence etc.

I think that all of y'all theories are interesting.
But, personally, I think DD had to die, so that Harry could grow up more. So that he could realize that in the end the prophecy had to be completed. I mean, that in the end, it was just going to be him vs. Voldy, and nothing was going to be standing between them, protecting him.

Dumbledore is dead. Period. His picture frame is up, and he wouldn't keep it secret from everyone. I would loose all respect for JKR if she were to bring him back. DD needed to die so harry could take care of things himself.

And like I said, people ask questions that have already been answered in the books.

I agree that Dumbledore is dead. Dont you think all these conspiracy theories a bit to obvious for our cunning Ms Rowling. I mean she has kept us guessing for the last 6 books and has always suprised us, I just dont think that she would give out any hint about what will happen in book 7. Perhaps she planted all this evidence to show Snape is a good guy etc just close enough to the surface for us to find - but just deep enough for us all to think we arent meant to know. However that is just my opinion.

And I just had a thought, could Voldemorts wand be the horcrux? And that something will happen to Harrys wand when it gets destoyed. Or maybe the phoenix, whose tail feather is in these wands was the horcrux, meaning that Harry has part of Vodemorts horcrux in his wand, Voldemort has part of the horcrux in his own wand, and that the phoenix has the other part of the horcrux. Again im just guessing though...

Originally posted by Rampant ox
And I just had a thought, could Voldemorts wand be the horcrux? And that something will happen to Harrys wand when it gets destoyed. Or maybe the phoenix, whose tail feather is in these wands was the horcrux, meaning that Harry has part of Vodemorts horcrux in his wand, Voldemort has part of the horcrux in his own wand, and that the phoenix has the other part of the horcrux. Again im just guessing though...

When Harry's is destroyed? 😕

Originally posted by Barker
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[b]When Harry's is destroyed? 😕 [/B]

What he said.

Originally posted by Barker
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[b]When Harry's is destroyed? 😕 [/B]

Haha sorry. Make a mental note to change when to if. 😉

hmmm....the wand theory is better than the scar theory

Originally posted by Rampant ox
Haha sorry. Make a mental note to change when to if. 😉

It's actually pretty good. But It'd have to be Dumbledore's Horcrux, and I doubt he'd make one. 😕

Does anyone know if it's mentioned somewhere in HP books that animagus wizards while turned can't be detected as magical beings with standard magical procedures. Because if so, R.A.B. maybe is actually initials for they're names in animal form. It would explain need for at least 2 persons for cave horcrux, that can fit lake boat...

p.s. if somebody mentioned this before, sorry...

If you read carefully in the 6th book, It says that Snape and Dumbledore are arguing. I think that Dumbledore was telling Snape to kill him, but Snape didnt want to. also think that Snape said he would not do it, and when Dumbledore was pleading to him in the tower, he was pleading Snape to kill him. I also think that before he died, he made a horcrux. I think that horcrux is Fawkes, because Dumbledore said you could make animals horcruxes.

I also think that I figured out what J.K. Rowling was talking about when she said that Harry looking just like his dad, but with his mothers eyes. She said that is very significant in the last book. In the third book, Lupin told Harry that His mother helped him out in his time of need. The only time of need lupin would have would be his werewolf transformation. I think that Lily was an animagus and her mark was her green eyes. I f you think about it, no other animaguses besides James had kids, and James being an animagus did have an effect on Harry, his Patronus form. I think Lily passed the Animagus ability on because Harry has the same eyes as Lily.

So what are you implying? That Lily was or is R.A.B? I can't see connection between my post and yours...
I also think that phoenix has dumbledore's soul inside because when harry think of dumbledore in CoS phoenix appeared, beside that D. and phoenix had weird connection between them, it could only be explained with soul parts, just like Nagini and V.
How does the animagus ability of ones parents affects someone's personality or anything else, in this case Harry's?