Originally posted by who?-kidif thanos can phase through dimensions, why shouldnt he be able to break out of that??? and even if vulcan freezes time what would he do to thanos??? nothing that could hurt him.
Vulcan can (or could) control time. He can stop it. What's Thanos gonna do ?And I don't even like Vulcan. Too boring.
i know we're all supposed to grease up and ease down slowly on thanos's memeber but vulcan is no pushover.
1. he can copy thanos powers
2. i dont care what you say if you have a brain, you have a nervous system, if you have a nervous system it requires electrical impulses...thanos may be super durable and immortal, but he still has humanoid functions, so his brain can be shut down. he only has a mind barrier for telepathy, as he is an accompished telepath in his own right
3. vulcan can manipulate energy to a very high degree...both from his own production and redircting others blasts..but until vulcan copy's a mutant with a super healing factor, , or invulnerabilty i'll still give it to thanos, but we dont have to dick ride him so much...he isnt uttlery invincible
Originally posted by manjaro
i know we're all supposed to grease up and ease down slowly on thanos's memeber but vulcan is no pushover.1. he can copy thanos powers
2. i dont care what you say if you have a brain, you have a nervous system, if you have a nervous system it requires electrical impulses...thanos may be super durable and immortal, but he still has humanoid functions, so his brain can be shut down. he only has a mind barrier for telepathy, as he is an accompished telepath in his own right
3. vulcan can manipulate energy to a very high degree...both from his own production and redircting others blasts..but until vulcan copy's a mutant with a super healing factor, , or invulnerabilty i'll still give it to thanos, but we dont have to dick ride him so much...he isnt uttlery invincible
Originally posted by who?-kid
Vulcan can (or could) control time. He can stop it. What's Thanos gonna do ?And I don't even like Vulcan. Too boring.
it's in here somewhere:
Originally posted by TheKahn
It's late and I can't sleep so that means it's time for a long post.Cutting to the chase, Thanos should win. At this point Vulcan is little more than hype (ala the Sentry), imo. He may turn out to be omega level, herald level, or skyfather level but we just don't know for sure right now. And I think it is rather premature to claim that he can definitely defeat one of the upper echelon characters in Marvel given his dearth of feats.
Now lets get down to brass tacks so to speak. What can Vulcan do exactly? From the marvel web site:
"Vulcan has thus far demonstrated enormous energy-manipulation, psionic powers, the ability to control other's powers, super-adaptive physiology, and geokinesis. He has also acquired the abilities of his teammates Petra (geokinesis), Darwin (advanced adaptation), and Sway (time manipulation) after his revival."Let's look at these powers one at a time and see if they could garner him a victory over the Mad Titan.
Energy-manipulation and psionic powers: Hahaha. Thanos laughs off point blank blasts from the Surfer and has taken, among other things, energy attacks from Odin IN ASGARD. What exactly has Vulcan done that would even suggest that he could match either of these two? As for psionic attacks, Nate Grey wasn't able to beat Thanos while they were trapped in a pocket dimension (thus Thanos was weakened by being cut off from his source of cosmic energy)
Time Manipulation: Now this would seem to give Vulcan a distinct advantage in this fight but this particular power does not seem to be very useful against Thanos. The Silver Surfer, Dr. Strange, and (formally) Thor can/could manipulate time as well and it has not granted them an automatic win. Also Thanos has been able to reemerge almost immediately after being sucked into an artificially generated black hole which would mean he had some way of countering the slowing down of time that the gravitational field of the black hole would produce.
Geokinesis: Useless as I doubt stoning Thanos will work.
Advanced adaptation: I can't see this as being very useful as Thanos can simply turn Vulcan into a rock if he wanted to or disintegrate Vulcan with a Galactus leveling blast. What I mean is that this ability seems to be dependant on Vulcan surviving the initial attack long enough to adapt. Given the level of Thanos' attacks, this seems rather unlikely to me.
Controlling other beings powers: I believe that this power may still be too undefined to use in a debate. From what I under stand from Deadly Genesis Vulcan seems to be able to gain the mutant abilities to some degree of the individuals around him (ala using telepathy and telekinesis, presumably from Marvel Girl, against her, Wolverine, and Cyclops). We don't know if this power extends to all super-powers (ie non-mutant) or what degree of control Vulcan is granted when he gains them. Keep in mind that Thanos has enhanced himself by both technological and mystical means. While I would rule out Vulcan being able to absorb all of his powers regardless of origin and being able to have complete mastery over their use, I do not think you can assume that based on his present feats.
Originally posted by manjaroals technically a black hole shouldve killed thanos right??? but he took that just fine.
i know we're all supposed to grease up and ease down slowly on thanos's memeber but vulcan is no pushover.1. he can copy thanos powers
2. i dont care what you say if you have a brain, you have a nervous system, if you have a nervous system it requires electrical impulses...thanos may be super durable and immortal, but he still has humanoid functions, so his brain can be shut down. he only has a mind barrier for telepathy, as he is an accompished telepath in his own right
3. vulcan can manipulate energy to a very high degree...both from his own production and redircting others blasts..but until vulcan copy's a mutant with a super healing factor, , or invulnerabilty i'll still give it to thanos, but we dont have to dick ride him so much...he isnt uttlery invincible
Since when can Vulcan copy someones powers? He managed to acquire the mutant ability of his other team because of Krakoa when he was barried in it. He doesnt have the ability to time travel, he can slow it but not go back in it? He does not have telepathic or tK powers, he needed Rachel to get to Prof. X mind to show to the X-men what happened during the fight on the island. Id put him probably even with Jack of hearts or little above it in terms of powerlevel but he cant take on Thanos by himself hes not that powerfull. just my 2 cents.
Also he does not have the ability to adapt anymore, the adaptive guy survive and left his body he was the one who kept him alive.
Originally posted by manjaro
ummm what do you think "enormous energy-manipulation and psionic powers" mean ...especially "psionic"?
about the same thing as "the power of a million exploding suns." In other words it will only mean whatever the writers want it to mean. Until Vulcan displays a level of power significantly above the Surfer (who apparently can now create black holes when he gets really pissed off) then I don't see him lasting 5 seconds against Thanos.