Count Dooku versus Mave Windu

Started by Razielim4 pages
Razielim KGB

Many things wrong with that post.

Uh,no.That was 3 years bfore ROTS was it not?

Nope. 2.3 years. But still, its possible that they BOTH learned some nifty new techniques.

Mace DEFINATELY learned some new tricks over this course,andin DR,Mace is regarded as Yoda's equal,

Nope. Never. Mace himself admits inferioty. The closest thing to your point is this quote "Perhaps only Mace Windu would be his (Dooku's) equal on equal ground." Equal ground, referring to the depth of the Dark Side in Vjun. Nothing really mentioned specifically Yoda = Mace.

Yoda beat out Dooku,and if Mace is the same as Yoda

Indeed he did. But Dooku still met him, blade for blade.

then Mace would sure as hell beat Dooku.

Nope.

Mysterious Man Senior Member

Originally posted by Razielim
Many things wrong with that post.

[b] Uh,no.That was 3 years bfore ROTS was it not?

Nope. 2.3 years. But still, its possible that they BOTH learned some nifty new techniques.

True.

Mace DEFINATELY learned some new tricks over this course,andin DR,Mace is regarded as Yoda's equal,

Nope. Never. Mace himself admits inferioty. The closest thing to your point is this quote "Perhaps only Mace Windu would be his (Dooku's) equal on equal ground." Equal ground, referring to the depth of the Dark Side in Vjun. Nothing really mentioned specifically Yoda = Mace.

Then how come Dooku ran away form Mace in Obsession?Becuase he knew he'd lose.

Yoda beat out Dooku,and if Mace is the same as Yoda

Indeed he did. But Dooku still met him, blade for blade.


Yeah and ran like a coward cause Yoda had him beat.
then Mace would sure as hell beat Dooku./B]

Nope. [/B]

Yes,if Anakin(who isn't even at his full potential)can beat old man Dooku,and Anakin isn't even as powerful as Mace during ROTS(if he was at full potential then yes)then Mace can sure as hell beat him(Dooku was also going all out in that duel despite Rampant Ox's wishes it came straight form Gl and novel),Mace knows plenty about Darkside moves aswell,what do you think he did to Greivous(Force Crush from what Ive read is even darker and more pwerful than Force Lightning),and to make him cough?And Mace is also regarded as THE best saber duelist in the Order save Yoda.

Many things are wrong with your post aswell.

Razielim KGB

Then how come Dooku ran away form Mace in Obsession?Becuase he knew he'd lose.

He didn't. Mace was tossed off a cliff. The fight was long over when Dooku walked off.

Yes,if Anakin(who isn't even at his full potential)can beat old man Dooku,and Anakin isn't even as powerful as Mace during ROTS(if he was at full potential then yes)then Mace can sure as hell beat him(Dooku was also going all out in that duel despite Rampant Ox's wishes it came straight form Gl and novel),

Alright. If we're following Anakin > Dooku , prove to me Mace > Anakin. Statements need backing up, you now.

Mace knows plenty about Darkside moves aswell,what do you think he did to Greivous(Force Crush from what Ive read is even darker and more pwerful than Force Lightning),and to make him cough?And Mace is also regarded as THE best saber duelist in the Order save Yoda.

Uh, he uses one Dark Side move. Never mind Dooku knows that and many other. Plus 70 years worth of lightside moves.

Of course Mace is. Dooku left the Order and became a Sith Lord. You usually aren't counted among the Jedi when that occurs.

And we do know that Dooku put Mace on his ass before. We don't know if Mace has done the opposite.

Mysterious Man Senior Member

Originally posted by Razielim
[b]Then how come Dooku ran away form Mace in Obsession?Becuase he knew he'd lose.

He didn't. Mace was tossed off a cliff. The fight was long over when Dooku walked off.


Perhaps.
Yes,if Anakin(who isn't even at his full potential)can beat old man Dooku,and Anakin isn't even as powerful as Mace during ROTS(if he was at full potential then yes)then Mace can sure as hell beat him(Dooku was also going all out in that duel despite Rampant Ox's wishes it came straight form Gl and novel),

Alright. If we're following Anakin > Dooku , prove to me Mace > Anakin. Statements need backing up, you now.

Your statements need backing up.And like I said,Mace was one of the best duelists in the Order,it was proved in a Mace VS Anakin thread here that Anakin wouldve been pwned.

Mace knows plenty about Darkside moves aswell,what do you think he did to Greivous(Force Crush from what Ive read is even darker and more pwerful than Force Lightning),and to make him cough?And Mace is also regarded as THE best saber duelist in the Order save Yoda.

Uh, he uses one Dark Side move. Never mind Dooku knows that and many other. Plus 70 years worth of lightside moves.

Yeah,and those clearly didn't help him in his fight with Yoda. 🙄

Of course Mace is. Dooku left the Order and became a Sith Lord. You usually aren't counted among the Jedi when that occurs.
True

And we do know that Dooku put Mace on his ass before. We don't know if Mace has done the opposite.
Check your sources,genius.That was BEFORE Mace even invented Vaapad,therefore it has no merit.

Lightsnake Senior Member

I'd like proof it was before Mace invented Vaapad with Sora

Razielim KGB

Your statements need backing up.And like I said,Mace was one of the best duelists in the Order,it was proved in a Mace VS Anakin thread here that Anakin wouldve been pwned.

What does this have to do with anything? You're the one who made the initial statement "Mace > Anakin". Great. Now prove it.

Mysterious Man Senior Member

Originally posted by Lightsnake
I'd like proof it was before Mace invented Vaapad with Sora
And I'd like proof your man Sids is all you claim him to be. 🙄

Mysterious Man Senior Member

Originally posted by Razielim
[b]Your statements need backing up.And like I said,Mace was one of the best duelists in the Order,it was proved in a Mace VS Anakin thread here that Anakin wouldve been pwned.

What does this have to do with anything? You're the one who made the initial statement "Mace > Anakin". Great. Now prove it. [/B]

No way,YOU search for it,I'm not digging all the way back,I'm tired enough as it is,it has all the prooff you want.

Lightsnake Senior Member

Irrelevant misdirection, pal. Proof Dooku defeated Mace before Mace discovered Vaapad

Razielim KGB

I guess your statement has no merit then. You say something, just be prepared to back it up =D

Mysterious Man Senior Member
Originally posted by Mysterious Man
And I'd like proof your man Sids is all you claim him to be. 🙄
Mysterious Man Senior Member

Originally posted by Razielim
I guess your statement has no merit then. You say something, just be prepared to back it up =D
Neither does yours,n00b.Your just like Rampant,I want proof that your manDooku is as great as you say,considering he was WTF pwned by a Knight says enough,if Mace was able to hold his own against a guy more powerful than Dooku(Sids),then Dooku should be easy for him.

Lightsnake Senior Member

What the hell is with this misdirection? Sidious is not an issue here, Mace is. Back up your statement or shut up

Razielim KGB

Now you're just plain resorting to insults, aggression and idiocy.

"Not worth my time." - Mace Windu.

Mysterious Man Senior Member

Originally posted by Lightsnake
What the hell is with this misdirection? Sidious is not an issue here, Mace is. Back up your statement or shut up
How about you shut up and read Shatterpoint,it says all you nead to know about Vaapad an when and how it was created,and read the NEC(besides the part about Sids be "Ub3r P0w3rful"😉,it also says how Mace made Vaapad and how he was defeated by Dooku in a sparring match prior to it's creation. 🙄

Razielium: Same above^,and how old was Anakin when he defeated Dooku?23 giv or take a month?How old is Mace?50?Andd up how much experience Mace has to Anakin.Anakin runs head long into battle without even thinking about a plan and is reckless and is very emotional,he lets his emotions control him(which is a weakness in itself) when he should be controlling them.Mace always keeps his emotions in check,you didn't see him fight recklessly in his fight against Sids(who is more powerful than Dooku BTW),how do you think a fight between Anakin and Mace would work out?Anakin would LOSE because he was to emotional,letting yourself get like that makes you reckless,he would lose because of his EMOTIONS.

"Not worth my time." becuase you don't see whats right infront of you.If Anakin(a boy who has less experience then Mace and lets his emotions control him,the only thing keeping him from making him acheive full potential and is also a weakness) can beat Dooku,then what makes you think Mace(a man who controls his emotions,has more experience than Anakin) can't?

Lightsnake Senior Member

Which...is of course the only time they ever fought. Page number, please?

tdtd Restricted

pwned again

Lightsnake Senior Member

Td, you seem to have a very strange obsession with me, considered seeing someone about it?

Mysterious Man Senior Member

Originally posted by Lightsnake
Which...is of course the only time they ever fought. Page number, please?
I'm not looking through a ton of SW books just to answer one question.Find it yourself.

Lightsnake Senior Member

' a ton?' You said the NEC. Flip to the back, find 'Mace Windu' or 'Dooku' or 'Vaapad' and match up the pages. The burden of proof is on you