Originally posted by Quiero Mota
🤨 Unlike The Godfather, Good Fellas is a true story. So I don't what you're talking about when you say "peasant class mobster movies".
a 'true story'? there is no such thing as a true story in hollywood. besides, godfather is loosely based on a patchwork of true stories. for example johnny fontain shares a very similar background with frank sinatra.
Originally posted by Jenova
That's the thing though, it is not limited. It can be from a book, a VG, a movie, anything except those coming from one's self-imagination...
I am going to have to go for Bernardo Provenzano known as Bernie the Tractor. You cant get any worse than a Mafia boss who mowed his enemies like a tractor in countless of bloodbaths, blew up 2 prosecutors and killed a child by melting him in Acid.
Originally posted by Quiero Mota
🤨 Unlike The Godfather, Good Fellas is a true story. So I don't what you're talking about when you say "peasant class mobster movies".
What I mean, is that so many mobseter movies are grungy...is that a good word? I don't really know what I mean, but there's a cleaner, classier feel to The Godfather. In Goodfellas, the gangsters are crass and needlessly violent. There's just a class to The Godfather that's lacking in Goodfellas.
Originally posted by Capt_Fantastic
What I mean, is that so many mobseter movies are grungy...is that a good word? I don't really know what I mean, but there's a cleaner, classier feel to The Godfather. In Goodfellas, the gangsters are crass and needlessly violent. There's just a class to The Godfather that's lacking in Goodfellas.
If there is indeed a "cleaner, classier feel" to The Godfather, then I just don't see it. It and Good Fellas both have plenty of moments where some one gets whacked, and I just don't see whats so classy about a real severed horse head.
Originally posted by Quiero Mota
If there is indeed a "cleaner, classier feel" to The Godfather, then I just don't see it. It and Good Fellas both have plenty of moments where some one gets whacked, and I just don't see whats so classy about a real severed horse head.
Ah, but that's just it! Severed horse heads are much classier than shooting a guy for telling you to go **** yourself, after you shot him in the foot for no reason. The hollywood producer didn't die, but got the mesage. Classier, all the way. Maybe not cleaner, but classier.
As I said in my last post, I can't really define it in words, but through interpretation. The Godfather is a different time and appeal than is Goodfellas. Maybe it's the fact that one has an original score and the other backdrops all the action with songs from the 70's? I dunno. But, in my opinion, one is superior to the other. And, I'm not dismissing Scarface because of the latino aspect. I just know I've seen it on repeat in a number of gin joints around San Francisco...and it doesn't do anything for me. As soon as Al Pachino started yelling all the time, it was over for me.
Originally posted by Capt_Fantastic
Ah, but that's just it! Severed horse heads are much classier than shooting a guy for telling you to go **** yourself, after you shot him in the foot for no reason.
That was a very realistic portrayal of Tommy DeSimone (Joe Pesche's character). DeSimone had a volatile temper and wouldn't hesitate to kill any one little provocation. Shooting some one in the foot is a good way to send them a message like 'Don't f*ck with me', but that kid didn't learn which is why he got capped.
Yes, it was pretty messed up, but that's exactly the kind of person Tommy DeSimone was. And Scorsese wanted to depict it.