black adam
Are you kidding? Black Adam has always been one of the most powerful meta-humans on the planet even before 52. He is up there with Superman, Capt. Marvel, and J'onn Jonzz. If it were Superman that went crazy and went on a rampage , would you believe that it would have been so hard to stop him?
Originally posted by kenobi
Are you kidding? Black Adam has always been one of the most powerful meta-humans on the planet even before 52. He is up there with Superman, Capt. Marvel, and J'onn Jonzz. If it were Superman that went crazy and went on a rampage , would you believe that it would have been so hard to stop him?
Exactly. He's on the level of Capt Marvel and J'onn yet went up against both of those people and more. He's never held back before so I can't see him as much more powerful than he was when the JSA was taking him down.
Originally posted by marvelprinceGo look at that respect thread with his fights with the JSA in the last series, and you'll realise they had to plot device him pretty much every time. He was always written as superior since Johns brought him back. And those weren't him going all out like this. Things like Superboy Prime, and Black Adam, are what happens when a guy in Superman's league go bonkers.
Exactly. He's on the level of Capt Marvel and J'onn yet went up against both of those people and more. He's never held back before so I can't see him as much more powerful than he was when the JSA was taking him down.
Originally posted by marvelprinceI assume you're talking about the COUNTDOWN Promo with Red Robin, and not WW3, which recieved very little promotion at all.
Eh, I found WW3 to be a bit of a let down. J'onn musing about how humans suck and realizing no they don't is old news to me now. Plus I felt a bit let down by the promo art and posters. I knew Jason Todd couldn't have a huge role, but with him as Red Robin in one of the posters I expected more than him killing some criminals. Plus I found it a bit unlikely that BA could really have been so hard to stop and that more people didn't die.Other than that 52 was amazing. I did not see the whole Mr Mind thing coming. I don't like that they brought back the multiverse (kinda takes away from the importance of IC imo) but the whole thing was written brillantly and had me on the edge of my seat for a lot of it. Truely good stuff.
For a one day event, it was awesome.
Originally posted by Juntai
Go look at that respect thread with his fights with the JSA in the last series, and you'll realise they had to plot device him pretty much every time. He was always written as superior since Johns brought him back. And those weren't him going all out like this. Things like Superboy Prime, and Black Adam, are what happens when a guy in Superman's league go bonkers.
So a few of the JSA could have plot deviced him again instead of going all out like he's Darksied or something. In individual fights he and Billy have gone back and forth. If it were Superman maybe I'd be a little more forthcoming cause he does tend to hold back, but Black Adam never has so I don't see how he's suddenly pwning all of existence. Its just a minor nitpick, but one all the same.
Originally posted by marvelprinceWell, it was DR FATE that plot deviced him before. No such option this time, as Dr Fate is out of commision.
So a few of the JSA could have plot deviced him again instead of going all out like he's Darksied or something. In individual fights he and Billy have gone back and forth. If it were Superman maybe I'd be a little more forthcoming cause he does tend to hold back, but Black Adam never has so I don't see how he's suddenly pwning all of existence. Its just a minor nitpick, but one all the same.
And the reason it went for so long, was because he's so fast he was clearing sections of the planet, and going to countries they couldn't cross into for the threat of war. Their hands were tied for a lot of it.
But I'd assume you'd know that if you read the series.
Black Adam holds back more than people think, and WW3 only farther supports it. Black Adam usually seems mostly irritated rather than angry enough to be going all out, like the death of his family for a second time did. Most of the time he ends up in fights, he doesn't even want to be fighting.
Even a while back while he and Supes were trading punches, he commented that once Black Adam stops holding back, he's stronger than Captain Marvel is. In Secret Six, when they saw Black Adam coming, one of them made the comment that he could take on the entire continent.
I don't understand where you're going. You mostly just seem jelous that he beats a lot of ass, when its been a part of his character for the last several years to be damn near unstoppable.
Originally posted by Juntai
Well, it was DR FATE that plot deviced him before. No such option this time, as Dr Fate is out of commision.
This time it was CM and the mystics, as the guys on the frontlines were doing next to no good at all.And the reason it went for so long, was because he's so fast he was clearing sections of the planet, and going to countries they couldn't cross into for the threat of war. Their hands were tied for a lot of it.
But I'd assume you'd know that if you read the series.
The sat out of one country from what I remember and even when they did run into him the beat them all down. Thats fine for the Titans and the others, but with the CM family and J'onn it shouldn't have been such a cakewalk.
Remember how the scientists took him down? (I'd assume you'd remember this if you read the series)
Originally posted by Juntai
Black Adam holds back more than people think, and WW3 only farther supports it. Black Adam usually seems mostly irritated rather than angry enough to be going all out, like the death of his family for a second time did. Most of the time he ends up in fights, he doesn't even want to be fighting.Even a while back while he and Supes were trading punches, he commented that once Black Adam stops holding back, he's stronger than Captain Marvel is. In Secret Six, when they saw Black Adam coming, one of them made the comment that he could take on the entire continent.
Continent? Of regular people yes, but he shouldn't just mow through the entire DCU at that level of power.
Originally posted by Juntai
I don't understand where you're going. You mostly just seem jelous that he beats a lot of ass, when its been a part of his character for the last several years to be damn near unstoppable.
Jealous? Do you even read what I put up before you post. I'm sorry that I wasn't drooling at Black Adam ripping the DC Earth a new one when he's shown to match up individually to many of those same characters before. He's badass, sure, he has been for years but all they've done is what they do for every character when the situation calls for it. Make them more of a threat at the expense of other characters
Originally posted by marvelprinceYou gotta remember, most of them are still holding back, merely trying to stall or contain him long enough to find some way to calm him or keep him down.
The sat out of one country from what I remember and even when they did run into him the beat them all down. Thats fine for the Titans and the others, but with the CM family and J'onn it shouldn't have been such a cakewalk.
Remember how the scientists took him down? (I'd assume you'd remember this if you read the series)By using tech stolen from the far future to open a dimensional space inside of his head? Which character was going to replicate that? Steel? Wonder Girl?
Continent? Of regular people yes, but he shouldn't just mow through the entire DCU at that level of power.Well. . seeing as it was a team of supers saying it. .
Jealous? Do you even read what I put up before you post. I'm sorry that I wasn't drooling at Black Adam ripping the DC Earth a new one when he's shown to match up individually to many of those same characters before. He's badass, sure, he has been for years but all they've done is what they do for every character when the situation calls for it. Make them more of a threat at the expense of other charactersSure I have, you've been commenting on the things you didn't like about the story, one being you thinking Countdown promo art was WW3 promo art. And the other was Black Adam being nearly unstoppable in confrontation, something that has been consistant in his character for a long time.
Originally posted by Juntai
You gotta remember, most of them are still holding back, merely trying to stall or contain him long enough to find some way to calm him or keep him down.
Stalling for time? I felt pretty sure there was the sense of urgency throughout the whole conflict.
Originally posted by Juntai
By using tech stolen from the far future to open a dimensional space inside of his head? Which character was going to replicate that? Steel? Wonder Girl?
Try Mr Terrific.
Originally posted by Juntai
Even that was only going to keep him down momentarily, being why they rushed to contain him.
Um..the scientists had him down for more than just a moment. They put him down and Sivina kept him down.
Originally posted by Juntai
Well. . seeing as it was a team of supers saying it. .
Hmm, team of supers vs DCU. Tough call there.
Originally posted by Juntai
Sure I have, you've been commenting on the things you didn't like about the story, one being you thinking Countdown promo art was WW3 promo art. And the other was Black Adam being nearly unstoppable in confrontation, something that has been consistant in his character for a long time.
I was wrong about the promo art. Don't see how that has any bearing on this though 😕
Sorry, must have been thinking about all the times where he's been taken by Marvel family, the JSA, etc. He goes down against them but the DCU of heroes can't even slow him down. What was I thinking? 🙄
Originally posted by Superherovandal
Mr Terrific is smart but even the smartest people in comics are going to have a very hard time replicating far future tech in time to stop BA.
I never said that it would be easy, but he's trying to make it seems as if the heroes are idiots. There are many genius on their side.
Again this was just a minor thing I had with the story. If it was some other character they made uber than I would have the same problem. Its one of the things that has me a bit worried about WWHulk as have a feeling everyone eill job to him the same way.
Originally posted by marvelprinceExcept I think we can all agree that a man powered by several different gods, to imbue him with godlike strength, speed, stamina, wisdom, etc etc, is a lot more believable to beat up a few high end guys than a guy as one dimensional as Hulk. BA can do anything he can do, and then some, and then some.
I never said that it would be easy, but he's trying to make it seems as if the heroes are idiots. There are many genius on their side.Again this was just a minor thing I had with the story. If it was some other character they made uber than I would have the same problem. Its one of the things that has me a bit worried about WWHulk as have a feeling everyone eill job to him the same way.
Originally posted by marvelprinceUhh, most of your replies here had no bearing on the conversation here. You didn't even bother to accurately counter anything I said.
Stalling for time? I felt pretty sure there was the sense of urgency throughout the whole conflict.Try Mr Terrific.
Um..the scientists had him down for more than just a moment. They put him down and Sivina kept him down.
Hmm, team of supers vs DCU. Tough call there.
I was wrong about the promo art. Don't see how that has any bearing on this though 😕
Sorry, must have been thinking about all the times where he's been taken by Marvel family, the JSA, etc. He goes down against them but the DCU of heroes can't even slow him down. What was I thinking? 🙄
For example, of course the guys on the front lines were stalling, and trying to slow him or hold him back, it's completely evident, and it's exactly what happened.
Try showing me Mr Mister Terrific doing anything of the sort. Or even anything close, and then coming up with such stuff in such a short time-frame to save lives.
They dropped him, momentarily, he would have gotten up imo, had they not contained him.
A team of supervillains/heros said he could take on pretty much the whole continent, and then in WW3, he pretty much did such, annihilating a few million people, devistating countries and taking down groups of the worlds most powerful heros. I don't understand where you're not getting that its simply written into his character to be able to do what he did without something there to plot device him, when it's pretty much ALWAYS the way they stop Black Adam.
You cited the promo art having Red Robin, and you not seeing him in the story, as one of your reasons for not liking it in your original post. It's certainly part of the conversation here.
Originally posted by marvelprinceWhich times are you talking about?
Sorry, must have been thinking about all the times where he's been taken by Marvel family, the JSA, etc. He goes down against them but the DCU of heroes can't even slow him down. What was I thinking? 🙄
The time he lost powers and couldn't continue the fight?[similar to how he was beating in WW3.]
http://img462.imageshack.us/my.php?image=postpb0896wg.jpg
Or round two? Where Black Adam broke his arm, almost killed him, and left him for dead?
http://img135.imagevenue.com/view.php?loc=loc24&image=b768f_youu7.jpg
Or round three, where Adam was serving up the entire Marvel family until the Wizard SHAZAM stepped in and amped up Captain Marvel?
http://img147.imagevenue.com/view.php?loc=loc24&image=c39e6_family1.jpg
http://img18.imagevenue.com/view.php?loc=loc24&image=66d87_family2.jpg
Or maybe you're refering to when Black Adam was annihilating Captain Marvel AND the JSA after being attacked while appologizing for acting rash against Atom Smasher?
http://img143.imagevenue.com/view.php?loc=loc24&image=d4b56_wind1.jpg
http://img146.imagevenue.com/img.php?loc=loc24&image=9058f_wind2.jpg
http://img24.imagevenue.com/img.php?loc=loc24&image=6bbab_wind3.jpg
http://img133.imagevenue.com/view.php?loc=loc24&image=13d60_wind4.jpg
http://img44.imagevenue.com/view.php?loc=loc24&image=4238f_wind5.jpg
http://img43.imagevenue.com/img.php?loc=loc24&image=18b84_wind6.jpg
http://img18.imagevenue.com/view.php?loc=loc24&image=c39e8_wind7.jpg
http://img141.imagevenue.com/img.php?loc=loc24&image=2c404_wind8.jpg
Where exactly is he getting overpowered or 'going down' against them?
Do I need more instances?
Originally posted by Juntai
The time he lost powers and couldn't continue the fight?[similar to how he was beating in WW3.]
http://img462.imageshack.us/my.php?image=postpb0896wg.jpg
Its one way to way.
Originally posted by Juntai
Or round two? Where Black Adam broke his arm, almost killed him, and left him for dead?
http://img135.imagevenue.com/view.php?loc=loc24&image=b768f_youu7.jpg
Not that I don't like pics of Lindsey Lohan what does this have to do with anything?
Originally posted by Juntai
Or round three, where Adam was serving up the entire Marvel family until the Wizard SHAZAM stepped in and amped up Captain Marvel?
http://img147.imagevenue.com/view.php?loc=loc24&image=c39e6_family1.jpg
http://img18.imagevenue.com/view.php?loc=loc24&image=66d87_family2.jpg
These ones not working either.
Originally posted by Juntai
Or maybe you're refering to when Black Adam was annihilating Captain Marvel AND the JSA after being attacked while appologizing for acting rash against Atom Smasher?
http://img143.imagevenue.com/view.php?loc=loc24&image=d4b56_wind1.jpg
http://img146.imagevenue.com/img.php?loc=loc24&image=9058f_wind2.jpg
http://img24.imagevenue.com/img.php?loc=loc24&image=6bbab_wind3.jpg
http://img133.imagevenue.com/view.php?loc=loc24&image=13d60_wind4.jpg
http://img44.imagevenue.com/view.php?loc=loc24&image=4238f_wind5.jpg
http://img43.imagevenue.com/img.php?loc=loc24&image=18b84_wind6.jpg
http://img18.imagevenue.com/view.php?loc=loc24&image=c39e8_wind7.jpg
http://img141.imagevenue.com/img.php?loc=loc24&image=2c404_wind8.jpg
Is that it? Capt. Marvel's gettting back up and Hawkman just showed up.
Pretty sure I mentioned earlier that DCU >>> Team of Supers
Originally posted by Juntai
Where exactly is he getting overpowered or 'going down' against them?
Do I need more instances?
Please do. I'm sure BA has never lost a fight in his life right?
I don't see whats so hard to understand that I find it unlikely that heroes couldn't up with a way to beat BA. Most of them he should be ripping through but on their side they have the worlds thrid smartest man (apparently), MM, Captain Marvel, or they could have even pulled out Zatanna if they needed to. They were acting like he was Superboy Prime or something.
Ok, I know this looks bad but I swear that when I clicked that one link a pic of Lindsay came up, and the other ones that I said weren't working were links to some awards show photos.
I just assumed they were celebrities Black Adam wants to rip in half. I mean seriously, who doesn't want to rip Lindsday a new one?
