OT Vader and OT Emperor vs Depa Billaba and Mace Windu.

Fight.

I vote the Sith!

Vader takes Depa and Sidious beats Windu.

Nope. Depa and Mace manhandle the Sith.

And just how do they go about that?

Vader and Sidious crush them with debris, or force push them and send them flying into each other. They don't have powerful enough force powers to deal with these two.

Cool. Do you always just throw out unsupported assumptions when you debate?

Oh, you have my every sorry, j4/\/u5. I'm sure you have safes full of comics where Mace and/or Depa pick up multiple Senate pods with ease and throw them around accurately.

Have you read Shatterpoint, dude?

Mace had a hard enough time with RotS Palpatine's lightning. Not sure if he can handle the Emperor's lightning.

But I think Depa beats Vader.

I'd give this one to the Jedi. Depa had mastered Form VII, and Vaapad. And, she seems to be exceptionally proficient in it, on top of the fact she is noted as a master swordswomen -- she was a Jedi Council member, and a general during the war.

IIRC, doesn't Yoda even suggest that Mace would be the only one to take her down? That alone says a lot for her dueling abilities. To add to that she joined the Council when she was under thirty.

I'd say she could take down Vader, and Windu could take down the Emporer.

Yes, Yoda says only Mace can take down Depa of all the Jedi, which is total bullshit. Seriously, does anyone really think Yoda can't take down Depa?

Anyway, since Vader, with one arm and no lightsaber, managed to take out OT Sidious I'm betting Mace could beat him. Depa could probably take out OT Vader but it'd be close.

Originally posted by darthsith19
Yes, Yoda says only Mace can take down Depa of all the Jedi, which is total bullshit. Seriously, does anyone really think Yoda can't take down Depa?

actually its not. Your forgetting that Mace Windu is black. And in another dimention is Shaft. Hes probably the strongest force user just because of those two facts.

Depa is the weak link here I would say...

When she is undoubtedly taken out, Mace Windu dies.

The problem with Vader is he is clouded in terms of strength. The only person WE SEE he ever dueled was his son, and he obviously wanted to keep his son alive. However, I believe that it would still be too much for Depa Billaba.

I think Vader was regarded to be stronger than anyone on the PT council (save obviously for Yoda and Mce). In ROTS he took out Cin Drallig with complete ease.

ROTJ Sidious is the same, if not worse than ROTS. He's a lot older, and doesn't even have a lightsaber anymore. Mace could WTF Pwn him.

He doesn't have a lightsaber because he never takes it out? He's spent decades increasing his power quite a bit.

Then Palpatine would blast him away with his awesome lightning.

Palpatine DID practice with a weapon. He personally trained a bunch of Dark Jedi.

Mace would still take him, cause he's black.

Yeah, and Palpatine is green.

By the way, Mace would win because he is black? Umm... Vader?

Originally posted by jollyjim311
Yeah, and Palpatine is green.

By the way, Mace would win because he is black? Umm... Vader?

Vader isn't black. His suit is. His voice is. However, a black man's body and a black man's voice > black man's voice and black suit.

So, unless Vader's suit was made by a black man, he can't contend.

...Anyway, Vader and Sidious smash them against each other using the force.

And then Yoda wakes them from their dream and drops a building on them.