Originally posted by Captain REX
Pretty much...I don't get the whole 'losing limbs and body parts lowers your power and potential!' thing. Vader seemed pretty freaking powerful even after he got hacked up.
true. with vader it slowed him down a little physically. possibly letting focus more on the dark side?
but with maul, it made him faster and stronger. and he still used the dark side.
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Originally posted by Captain REX
I don't get the whole 'losing limbs and body parts lowers your power and potential!' thing.
Originally posted by Captain REX
Vader seemed pretty freaking powerful even after he got hacked up.
An individuals power and potential to wield the Force is determined by their midi-chlorian count. Anakin had the highest ever reading (having been created through manipulation of the Force) so it's not surprizing that he was the most powerfull Jedi (just not necessarily the most skilled Jedi...) When a person is maimed as Anakin (or Maul for that matter) was, then they lose a signifigant percentage of their midi-chlorian count, (due to missing body parts) so their ability to wield the force is diminished.
I'd just like to note that Vader lost less than half of his body. Going by Midichlorians, he would have lost less than half of his potential.
And I'd hardly called AotC Anakin to be anywhere near his prime. Mecha Vader is 80% as powerful as a superior version of Palpatine, and he has stomped on many PT Jedi before. No doubt in my mind Mecha Vader > AotC Anny
Hell, it can be argued that RotS Anakin is the strongest Jedi of the PT era, assuming his heads on properly of course.
Not only that, the Force is something beyond physical limitations, according to Yoda in ESB. I think the whole concept of Midichlorians to be childish. Well, that's just me.
i agree. Midichlorians just determine how intune with the force you are. like Qui-gon said, "They are constantly speaking to us, telling us the will of the Force."
So, how I see it: the more midichlorians, the more potential and better conection ( like a telephone) to the force. Vader is so powerful because of his potential, training, and will. Surviving Mustafar is testament to that.
you all forget that maul would have his entire upper body his legs are hardly a hinderence, he got fixed by geonosians and so did grievouse so what makes you think he isnt as flexible as grievouse, plus maul can still use the force, in saboteur and shadow both he battled super human droids for hours on end, plus he dropped the black sun, a notorious bounty hunter and Yanth the hutt's entire army of guards. Maul also took out two different fuel companies in saboteur!
I'd just like to note that Vader lost less than half of his body. Going by Midichlorians, he would have lost less than half of his potential.
Don't forget that the rest of him was cooked like bacon.
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Originally posted by Darth Vious
Are you serious? Consider the 'athletic prowess' displayed by Vader in ANH, ESB and RotJ, and compare it to Anakin in his prime (and with all his body parts) in AotC and RotS. There is no comparison to the power he is able to wield in a duel, or the acrobatics that he is able to perfom before he was maimed. Darth Vader, as he appeared in ANH, ESB and RotJ, is a shadow of his former self.
That is not power, that is agility. Feats that Vader manages to pull off with the Force are worthy of Master Yoda, many of them very early on after ROTS. For example, his brutally bashing Roan Shryne to death with a wooden catwalk that he basically ripped apart with significant ease, once he had really gotten the hang of the Dark Side. He crushes the Dark Woman, a Jedi who exhibited bizarre abilities and great power, with very little difficulty, though she presents some problems for him in the beginning of the duel...not the end, though. He holds a massive tree over her and drops it...
His use of the Force is power. Using it in agile moves isn't really a very good measure of power.
Originally posted by Captain REX
Don't forget that the rest of him was cooked like bacon....
That is not power, that is agility. Feats that Vader manages to pull off with the Force are worthy of Master Yoda, many of them very early on after ROTS. For example, his brutally bashing Roan Shryne to death with a wooden catwalk that he basically ripped apart with significant ease, once he had really gotten the hang of the Dark Side. He crushes the Dark Woman, a Jedi who exhibited bizarre abilities and great power, with very little difficulty, though she presents some problems for him in the beginning of the duel...not the end, though. He holds a massive tree over her and drops it...
His use of the Force is power. Using it in agile moves isn't really a very good measure of power.
I hated when he killed the Dark Woman...
Originally posted by Motoko Sama
I doubt Owen wanted another one on one shot with Maul after he smacked him with his own rifle, and broke it across his face.