CIS, Republic, Yuuzhan Vong vs Empire

Originally posted by Hokage Yoda
Cis has the plans of it so they know the Death Star's weakness

Because plans remain the same for 20 year projects.

Yeah, and they had definitely noticed it. That's why they wanted it that way. Just in case they needed a quick self destruct. No. The Empire didn't even know about the weakness.

No however even with that the Republic's Armada will launch a full scale assault on the Death Star while Yoda,Mace,and Dooku own sids and Vader as For SSD the Republics Mandator II-class Star Dreadnought could challange them as each could take on 1000 Recusant-class light destroyers.

Yeah, because the Emperor will just casually strut into melee combat?

If all of his Forces are engaging the Enemy the Jedi will plan something(like Revans capture)

I think Sidious will sit tight on Byss and allow his superweapons to wipe out the pipsqueaks, thanks.

Originally posted by Darth_Glentract
I wonder how many people realize that the 25,000 ISD's account for only a small portion of the Imperial Navy as a whole. I heard in one source that there were a thousand smaller ships for every ISD. Furthermore, a single SSD is 100 times more massive then an ISD. The SSD's alone equal more then 1,300 ISD's. The Second Death Star is more then a million times more massive then an ISD. Still not counting the Planetships, World Devastators, Golem Platforms, five Death Stars besides the DS2, the Tarkin, the Eclipse's, the Soverign's, ect.

In short, the Imperals pwn them.

The Vong have their worldships the Republc has Mandators and the CIS has millions of Warships according to Incredible cross Sections for Episode three.

Originally posted by IKC
I think Sidious will sit tight on Byss and allow his superweapons to wipe out the pipsqueaks, thanks.

I see that too. Palpatine was never one for melee combat [save for that one time with his little green friend...].

Btw, the Eclipse's superlaser was 1/3 of the Death Star's own. It could disintigrate a continent and crack a planet's crust.

Originally posted by Darth_Glentract
Apparently you don't know WTF you're talking about. The DS2 has 35,000 turbolasers. [b]THE strongest capital ship in ALL of Star Wars (The Eclipse) has less then a tenth that many guns. Furthermore, the DS carries more then 5,000 Tie Fighters. [/B]

Well, obviously I wasnt thinking clearly at the time, because I said that it doesnt make any sense whatsoever!!!! Because of the fact that I was exhausted, I forgot that tiny little fact that the Death Star had a like a billion guns to blast away things. How long do you think that 5,000 Tie Fighters will last against thousands of Clone Pilots and Vulture Droids, along with Jedi pilots?

yea death star vs all. it will have hundreds of capital ships around it at all times.

Originally posted by Hokage Yoda
The Vong have their worldships the Republc has Mandators and the CIS has millions of Warships according to Incredible cross Sections for Episode three.

You know, there's very few Mandators and it'd only take a single Eclipse shot to take one out. The same is true for the Worldships, which weren't actually very powerful for their size. And were are these "millions of ships" in the more canonical movies?

Originally posted by Darth_Glentract
You know, there's very few Mandators and it'd only take a single Eclipse shot to take one out. The same is true for the Worldships, which weren't actually very powerful for their size. And were are these "millions of ships" in the more canonical movies?

Read the incredible cross sections their it says "While Vast Campains detain millions of Separatist warships, a few dozen battleships lead thousands of thousands of destroyers and frigatesin a bold strike on thegalactic capital Coruscant"

do you guys even notice the fact that the death star only had tie fighters and such around it, did you ever see star destroyers with the original death star....o but in ROTJ they did, but that doesnt mean the original death star did

Originally posted by Darth Avis
yea death star vs all. it will have hundreds of capital ships around it at all times.

Hmmm well can the largest, most powerful fleet ever built stand up to three of some of the largest, most powerful fleets ever built?

Originally posted by Hokage Yoda
Read the incredible cross sections their it says "While Vast Campains detain millions of Separatist warships, a few dozen battleships lead thousands of thousands of destroyers and frigatesin a bold strike on thegalactic capital Coruscant"

That's nothing next to the industrial capacity of the Empire. At stardestroyer.net, Mike Wong states that the Empire has the industrial capacity to build more then 35 billion GCS (Galaxy Class Starships) in six months using the same amount of materials as was used on the DS2 project. He later states that a ISD is 14 times bigger then a GCS. 35 billion divided by 14 is still over 2 billion ISD. In other words, if necessary, the Empire could build an additional 2 billion ISD, using only the amount of materials used on the DS2, every 6 months. It's not even a competition at this point.

The Republic is definitly the weak link here. Apart from the Jedi, they are weaker in every way than everyone else. CIS's fleet size is probably comparable to the Empire's, if slightly less advanced and a bit smaller. The Vong have a huge fleet, probably the size of the CIS's fleet, and they are invunerable to the Force, so Palps Battle Meditation won't work. At the time that Thrawn was Grand Admiral, the Empire only had a few warships. The Empire in this battle is the Empire at the battle of Endor. (no suncrusher and crap like that). Thrawn is inexperianced, and is probably no match tactically for Tsavong Lah and General Grievous. The trio take this. They probably greatly outnumber the empire in fleet size (CIS and Vong alone probably are 1.5 times as big as the Empire). They have at least 15000 force users, including Yoda (who's stronger than Sidious), Mace (stronger than Vader) and Obi-Wan(incredibly lucky). Trio wins.

CIS' fleet as big as the Empire's? As advanced as the Empires? lol
The trio gets destroyed.

i vouch for just the republic to win against the empire.because the republic has a load of jedi clone troopers,arc troopers,clone commandos and alliies.obviously they would win

Originally posted by DePWNZOR
The Republic is definitly the weak link here. Apart from the Jedi, they are weaker in every way than everyone else. CIS's fleet size is probably comparable to the Empire's, if slightly less advanced and a bit smaller. The Vong have a huge fleet, probably the size of the CIS's fleet, and they are invunerable to the Force, so Palps Battle Meditation won't work. At the time that Thrawn was Grand Admiral, the Empire only had a few warships. The Empire in this battle is the Empire at the battle of Endor. (no suncrusher and crap like that). Thrawn is inexperianced, and is probably no match tactically for Tsavong Lah and General Grievous. The trio take this. They probably greatly outnumber the empire in fleet size (CIS and Vong alone probably are 1.5 times as big as the Empire). They have at least 15000 force users, including Yoda (who's stronger than Sidious), Mace (stronger than Vader) and Obi-Wan(incredibly lucky). Trio wins.

Excuse me? Am I reading your power correctly? Maybe it's a big long typo or something. The CIS and the Vong fleets are as big as the Empire's? That's laughable. Did you miss my earlier post? Let me repeat myself. In other words, if necessary, the Empire could build an additional 2 billion ISD, using only the amount of materials used on the DS2, every 6 months.

Are you seriously saying that the CIS or the Vong have more then the equivalent of 2 BILLION ISD?

BTW, even as of the battle of Endor Thrawn was the greatest military commander.