Originally posted by godking
Pressure poitns dont heal buddy since they are not really damaged .
Originally posted by godking
daredevil dropping Wolverine with a throath punch is perfectly acceptable.
Originally posted by godking
It seems that alot of you dont know a thing a bout human physics.
No my friend you have no knowledge of human physics and have even less knowledge of comic physics which clearly is not the same as normal physics.
Originally posted by godking
Wolverine is slightly above human .
Originally posted by godking
Guys like Daredevil can KO or drop him if they hit him in the right spot.
No they really can’t not unless that can continually pound on Logan for a very long period of time.
Originally posted by godking
What causes a KO ? the violent collision of the brain against the skull caused by a hard blow.
Originally posted by godking
Healing does'nt do do shit against that since the brain is not actaully damaged
This statement of yours is extremely incorrect. The brain in bruised and damaged when some thing of this nature happens, which because hundreds of brain cells to be killed.
Originally posted by godking
but is incapacitated for a shot time by the collision between the brain and the skull Wolverines health factor aids in his recovery not the adverse effects of the KO blow.
Originally posted by godking
If Wolverine gets hit by a throat punch he is going down a clean throat punch stops breathing and cauces nausea ect his healing factor makes him RECOVER faster it does not shield him from the blow.
Originally posted by godking
There is a reason why in all full contact fighters KEEP THEIR CHIN TUCKED IN. A punch to the throat would put him down but he would recover faster then a normal human beacuse of his healing factor.
Originally posted by godking
People seem to overestimate Wolvies healing factor sometimes
Originally posted by godking
It does not make him immortal and It does not make him invunerable.
Originally posted by capt it up
Actually they are real damage. A pressure point attack is an attack direct at nerves and nerves cluster to disable people physically. A normal human will heal from these attack’s after a sort while maybe even hours, but sooner or later a normal person buddy would right them self’s from such attacks, now in wolverine case these attacks should have no effect against him because of the fact his body heals hundreds of times faster then that of a normal human.Actually no it not at all, you my friend have little to know knowledge of wolverines ability to heal.
No my friend you have no knowledge of human physics and have even less knowledge of comic physics which clearly is not the same as normal physics.
Slightly above human? Wolverine is superhuman in almost every area.
Wolverine also ahs enhanced durability which is greater that that of peak humans.No they really can’t not unless that can continually pound on Logan for a very long period of time.
Yes we all know this.
This statement of yours is extremely incorrect. The brain in bruised and damaged when some thing of this nature happens, which because hundreds of brain cells to be killed.
Actually it would since it would heal the lose brain sell and the bruising almost as soon as it was made which would cause wolverine to not be KOed.
A gain you are incorrect my friend. Being hit in the throat would in no way put Logan down. Logan healing factor would literally heal the damage made from the hit as soon as the hit was finish neutralizing of the effects of the blow which you have just stated. Also being hit in the throat does not make you nauseated in the least bit.
That’s also not a true statement that is only true in some forms of fighting such as boxing, but not true for martial artists.
Also you act as if he heals only a little faster then a normal human which is quite incorrect. You are talking about a guy wolverine takes stabs to the neck and bullets to the neck with out flinching.No it more likely the case that people such as your self with no knowledge of wolverine’s abilities assume wolverines healing factor is far weaker then, it is consistently shown.
Who said it made him immortal or invulnerable? Now your just putting words in peoples mouths
Pressure points do not do damage put stop the flow of blood or disrupt nerve endings .
Brain collides with skull causing a loss of consiousness a healing factor does not stop that it does help you recover quickly .
get someone to punch you in the throat then come back and write how it feels.
Fighters in any real fullcontact sport keep their chins tucked in to prevent throat blows . Guys who do McDojo strip mall martial arts dont because the never fight or spar full contact.
First learn something about real fighting and what happens in a real fight before opening your mouth.
Originally posted by capt it up
Actually no it not at all, you my friend have little to know knowledge of wolverines ability to heal.
omg dude.... Wolverine still feels the pain from an attack... the feeling/ memory of it alone will last in his mind
when Marrow stabbed wolverine in the throat it still hurt him. it still stopped him from breathing for a short time.
just like DD throat punching wolverine... its prefectly acceptable to stun wolverine momentarily.
As well as this little tidbit - a bat creates extra force because of the leverage behind it. He wouldn't feel like he was getting hit with a bat, he would feel like he was getting hit with a punch. Oh, and people always talk about how "Brass-knuckle"-ey the metal makes him(I even mentioned it in this thread, because I think thats the way most comics make it seem even if it isn't realistic)...what they ALSO don't realize is that the metal wouldn't add any extra force.
Brass knuckles only work because of two things:
1.They lessen the surface area you punch with, and remove the skin "padding," if you got hit in the face with sheer bone, it would hurt far more than bone covered with skin, veins, etc. Wolverine still has skin over his metal, and his fist is the same surface area, if not even larger, due to the metal. The surface area of a normal pair of brass knuckles, however, is about 1/3 that of a human fist.
2. Extra weight in the hand. Kind of like a fistpack. The metal CERTAINLY adds some weight to his arm, as it adds a total of one hundred pounds to his entire body, however, since he weighs two hundred pounds without it, the damage a 'normal' punch would deal would only still be about 2/3s wolverine's, as that is the difference in force.
Pain is simply messages to the brain from neurons indicating tissue damage. These neurons are fired due to pressure. Pressure is force divided by surface area. The force is the mass time the acceleration. Assuming someone is punching with the same strength (acceleration, in this case) the mass for wolverine versus a guy with brass knuckles has a multiplier of 1.5x(200 to 300, 100 pound difference). However, the surface area of the brass knuckles is one third that of wolverine's fist (or less). So that pressure is divided by one third.
Pressure(pain) for wolverine is 1.5 times the mass of his arm (m) times acceleration (a) divided by surface area (s).
P = (1.5ma)/s
If a normal person (with wolverine's strength, of course) wears brass knuckles and punches, the pressure is the mass of his arm(neglecting the added mass from the knuckles themselves, this would increase this formula even further), times acceleration, divided by one third the surface area of his fist.
P = (ma)/(1/3 * s)
or
P = (3ma)/s
The added metal in wolverine's arm certainly increases the power of his punch, but bone claws wolverine with a pair of brass knuckles would be punching more than twice as hard as Adamantium wolverine. (And this neglects the increase in acceleration the lessened mass would allow).
Eh. I rambled a bit, but this was just to get the point that I, myself, and others need to stop comparing Adamantium wolverine to brass knuckles, much less an adamantium baseball bat, considering a punch is a straight force, whereas a baseball bat increases the force you put on it due to both leverage and centrifugal force.
Eh, I tried to edit, but i's been more than 15 minutes, sorry for the double post (assuming someone doesn't post while I'm typing).
Anyways, I was thinking about what I had just said, and the added mass because of brass knuckles IS in fact, negligible. The extra half/quarter pound it adds is nothing in comparison to your arm(when comparing it to an arm that weighs 1.5 times as much, due to that adamantium).
HOWEVER, the added accleration that old Bone claws with brass knuckles would get, should NOT be negligible. I'm not entirely sure of the ratio, I am almost SURE it isn't a linear relationship, but consider this: when you (or someone you know/have seen) is working out on the bench press, and they are maxing out, how fast do the max? Compare that with the speed they can utilize when putting up...say...2/3s their max. MUCH faster.
The acceleration increase that mr. Bone Claws with brass knuckles would receive is quite a bit. Let us say, for simplicity, it is the same 1.5 that the mass adds (so wolverine's punches actually deal the same damage whether he is bone claws or adamantium)
Then the pressure looks like this:
P = (m *1.5*a)/(1/3 * s)
or
P = (4.5ma)/s.
That would mean that Bone claws with a pair of brass knuckles would actually be punching THREE times as hard as adamantium wolverine.
Food for thought, gentlemen, food for thought.
Wow, you're quite smart, Wolverine2006.
*rolls eyes* The material that the bat is made with makes little difference, assuming the weights are constant. Yes, steel is denser than wood, hence when faced with a man swinging both wooden and steel bats of equal size (volume), the steel bat will weigh more, and create more force. However, assuming that they have equal masses, and we neglect the increased air resistance due to the fact that the wooden bat is now larger, the forces, and therefore, the PAIN that would be felt due to being struck with the bats would be equal.
Gah...this isn't exactly high level stuff, I'm using VERY elementary concepts neglecting SEVERAL factors to make this as simple as possible.
Originally posted by godking
Pressure points do not do damage put stop the flow of blood or disrupt nerve endings .
Originally posted by godking
Brain collides with skull causing a loss of consiousness a healing factor does not stop that it does help you recover quickly .
Originally posted by godking
get someone to punch you in the throat then come back and write how it feels.
Originally posted by godking
Fighters in any real fullcontact sport keep their chins tucked in to prevent throat blows
Originally posted by godking
. Guys who do McDojo strip mall martial arts dont because the never fight or spar full contact.
Originally posted by godking
First learn something about real fighting and what happens in a real fight before opening your mouth.
Originally posted by botcherby
omg dude.... Wolverine still feels the pain from an attack... the feeling/ memory of it alone will last in his mind
Originally posted by botcherby
when Marrow stabbed wolverine in the throat it still hurt him.
Originally posted by botcherby
it still stopped him from breathing for a short time.
Originally posted by botcherby
just like DD throat punching wolverine... its prefectly acceptable to stun wolverine momentarily.
Originally posted by Sea King
imo dd takes the best of this you see his radar sence can let his reflex'es
be faster then bullets and sence wolve has no claws in this
so no that not a good reason at all
Originally posted by capt it up
Stopping blood flow by causing damage to the body which is why the blood flow is stopped. Also disrupting nerve endings is also damage to the body my friend your point that you are trying to make are not helping since they are all damage caused to the body in which case would be most use to some one who would heal it instantlyWolverine heals at such a rate that he would heal from the attack as soon as the damage affected him which would neutralize.
Also do u honestly think a guy who takes hits from class 100 in stays conscious could possibly get Koed from a hit to the head from daredevil?Been there done that.
This my friend is not true, have you ever play rouge bee?
Most martial art styles do not keep there chin tuck in any ways. Your knowledge of martial arts is clearly limited.
You my friend should take your own advice. I have been in many many fights in my day so do not patronize mean about real fighting since you my friend have more then likely never been in a life or death fight which I own the other hand have.
You've been in a life and death fight before? Somebody was trying to kill you? 😑