Has everything already happened?

Originally posted by Janus Marius
Too vague. And if it were not already evident or detectable, we could never establish that we were indeed repeating outselves.... Depending on which context you're meaning.

What contexts do you think I mean? Talk about vague, this is probably the most vague post I've ever read.

Deduce for yourself why sincerity is important to a debate.

Originally posted by Janus Marius
^ That's my original post. I personally think the topic question itself needs to be put into perspective. Tired Hiker suggests that something unknown or beyond our senses is manipulating us into repeating ourselves. I find that a flawed premise to start with, since we can't establish anything like that, and it'd just degrade into fantasy work. Now if he's asking it from a social or psychological viewpoint: What makes us repeat our past mistakes as individuals and as humanity as a whole? it'd be a much better topic for discussion.

And I apologize if I came off harsh, Shak. You certainly haven't said anything to spite me in the past, and I don't want to be causing bad blood over a few careless words on my part. Simply put- it's not worth the effort to fret over. Like you said, back on topic.

I did not suggest that something unknown or beyond our senses is manipulating us into repeating ourselves, I simply inquired if that could be the case.

. . . and as far as 'not anything to fret over' I think it's too late to pull that card. You got yourself into this.

that is something that we will never know, so i dont really think too much about it

heres what i think i think that we are already dead but when someone dies they see their life flash before ther eyes right. well when we die i think we just relive our lives through the flashbacksand a de je vuis just us remembering that we have already lived this life, been here before
i dont know but it sounds good
think for yourself question authority

Originally posted by strangehero420
think for yourself question authority

THE WORST IS YET TO COME. so not everything has happened yet. More and more people are dying from diseases, and from starvation. new diseases are discovered here and there. Few of our young marines may perish tomorrow in Iraq, because of a bomb that has not yet exploded. The USA has not won the World Cup Yet , South Africa has not hosted it yet.And as a specie we have not bashed each other to extinction yet but we have gotten so close few times......

If everything has already happened then Shakyamunison's belief 'REINCARNATION' indeed is the only answer that would make the most sense in this whole thread

And if you don't believe in REINCARNATION it does not mean that it does not exist unless you can absolutely Prove that in fact it does not.

Originally posted by TheSpinner
[B]THE WORST IS YET TO COME. so not everything has happened yet. More and more people are dying from diseases...etcB]

If everything is killing us...why is the global population going up while virtually every birth rate is going down?

Originally posted by Alliance
If everything is killing us...why is the global population going up while virtually every birth rate is going down?

I never said everything is killing us. I am giving examples of things still happening. and will still happen tomorrow. go read the about the two world wars that we have had so far. The European population was reduced so much after the second one. that governments were paying people to have more children. but that is just an example

If you read the whole thing you would know that my point of relevance is that: "IF EVERYTHING HAS ALREADY HAPPENED. THEN REINCARNATION IS THE ONLY THING THAT MAKES ANY SENSE. AND THAT THE PEOPLE WHO BELIEVE IN IT ARE WAY AHEAD OF US", and this is my relevant view on the question, that you should be debating and it will be my pleasure... Wining World Cup is not Killing us, I am actually enjoying every single game I can catch. So there goes your theory of me saying that everything is killing us. If you have misunderstood what I have meant; then I am to blame for part of it and you are to blame for the rest of it:

I am not perfect and I may have said something I don't really understand or I may have stated something that is not clear enough. But You are more than welcome to prove that my theory about REINCARNATION stated in BOLD does not stand any chance or does not make any sense.

well, two points then. If its so irrelevant, then why did you post all the superfelous information?

If you looked, I directly referenced your comment on disease.

Originally posted by Alliance
well, two points then. If its so irrelevant, then why did you post all the superfelous information?