Thanos vs Dr Manhattan

Started by who?-kid2 pages

Originally posted by Grimm22
I dont know.

I guess the ending 😐


You have to be more specific if you want me to help you.

And the ending... well I thought it was great and sad at the same time. It was not a happy ending, but there was a little bit of hope that the bad guy would still end up behind bars : remember Rohrschahs diary. We'll never know if it has been published or not.

For those who don't know him : this is Doc Manhattan

Originally posted by Acrosurge
And yet, Dr. Manhattan wound up being manipulated by Adrian Veidt. He did exactly as Veidt wanted him to; he joined his point of view, in the end.

Dr Manhattan was being affected by tachyons when he was fooled by Adrien, He clearly said "These TACHYONS, they're muddling things up..", they did however only slightly affect his mind, but not his power.

Manhattan can rearrange matter and energy in any way he wished, apparently control time and the end of the series suggest he can create humans/life, which would then catapult him into the hierarchy of even mainstream companies.

yeah i remember him at the end quipping casually to himslef that he "might" create some life. like ...meh...maybe i'll create some life

Originally posted by Mr Master
Dr Manhattan was being affected by tachyons when he was fooled by Adrien, He clearly said "These TACHYONS, they're muddling things up..", they did however only slightly affect his mind, but not his power.

Manhattan can rearrange matter and energy in any way he wished, apparently control time and the end of the series suggest he can create humans/life, which would then catapult him into the hierarchy of even mainstream companies.

Manhattan is powerful in the Watchman universe, I give him that, however he has never matched his powers against other matter/energy manipulators, or even against actual, super-powered beings. This casts him into the same boat as Sentry as far as judging how his power stacks up against others.

Create life? The Silver Surfer has done that. See past, present, and future? Both Surfer and Genis can do that and its never helped them against Thanos. If Manhattan sends Thanos somewhere, the Mad Titan can teleport right back. Thanos has total control over his mind, soul, and body, so in my opinion, there's nothing Dr. Manhattan could do to harm him.

Originally posted by who?-kid
You have to be more specific if you want me to help you.

And the ending... well I thought it was great and sad at the same time. It was not a happy ending, but there was a little bit of hope that the bad guy would still end up behind bars : remember Rohrschahs diary. We'll never know if it has been published or not.

Yeah I never understood what was so special about the diary? 😐

actually it doesnt cast him into the same boat, he is said to be able to make other beings and his powers are to a limit explained, and even sentry is not to be laughed at.

I know next to nothing about Dr Manhatten.So I can't say who will win.

Originally posted by Thanos_6383
I know next to nothing about Dr Manhatten.So I can't say who will win.

All right, a quick refresher for everyone. It has been 20 years since we saw the Doctor.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dr_Manhattan

Originally posted by Grimm22
Yeah I never understood what was so special about the diary? 😐

Well, in the diary Rohrschah (I hate that name ! I don't know how to write it and I am too lazy to look it up) wrote everything down he knew, including the fact that Adrian Veidt is the evil mastermind.

Before the left, Rohrschah sent his diary to a paper, because he had a feeling he wouldn't survive it. If he died, the diary with a lot of answers in it still could be published by the same paper.

I hope this helped you.

Originally posted by who?-kid
Well, in the diary Rohrschah (I hate that name ! I don't know how to write it and I am too lazy to look it up) wrote everything down he knew, including the fact that Adrian Veidt is the evil mastermind.

Before the left, Rohrschah sent his diary to a paper, because he had a feeling he wouldn't survive it. If he died, the diary with a lot of answers in it still could be published by the same paper.

I hope this helped you.

Kind of 😬

I still dont get why its such a well reknown book though, I mean I liked it and all but it wasnt exactly the greatest superhero story ever told or anything like that 😛

Originally posted by Mider
actually it doesnt cast him into the same boat, he is said to be able to make other beings and his powers are to a limit explained, and even sentry is not to be laughed at.
... his powers are explained, but his limits were not tested. He never overcame any true superhumans. He's never fought beings with similar molecular control. There's no proof that his powers in that regard are even beyond the Silver Surfer, Firestorm, a GL, or Captain Atom, let alone Thanos.

In that regard, Dr. Manhatten is identical to Sentry. We simply don't know how strong he is because all he's had to test his limits have been normal humans and Earth based technology.

Originally posted by Grimm22
Kind of 😬

I still dont get why its such a well reknown book though, I mean I liked it and all but it wasnt exactly the greatest superhero story ever told or anything like that 😛


Well, we are of course entitled to our own opinion. But imo, it was, together with The Dark Knight Returns, Marvels, The Killing Joke and Batman Year One one of the best comics ever.

Watchmen was very influential, because it was one of the first superhero comics in which characters could cry, or betray, or have sex, or were unable to stop the evil scheme of the villain.

Don't forget it's 20 years old, lots has happened since, these days we are used to cynic super heroes and occasionally a not so good ending. Back then, it was simply not done.

Originally posted by Acrosurge
... his powers are explained, but his limits were not tested. He never overcame any true superhumans. He's never fought beings with similar molecular control. There's no proof that his powers in that regard are even beyond the Silver Surfer, Firestorm, a GL, or Captain Atom, let alone Thanos.

In that regard, Dr. Manhatten is identical to Sentry. We simply don't know how strong he is because all he's had to test his limits have been normal humans and Earth based technology.


You have a point.

But that doesn't make Manhattan less dangerous. I consider him like a (mini) Molecule Man with super strength, who can duplicate himself, who can turn himself into a giant, who can teleport himself and others to where he wants and who is very hard to kill.

That's why he has a good chance against Thanos.

in the comic wasnt he stated to be able to make his own beings.