Exar Kun versus Mace Windu

Started by IKC4 pages
Originally posted by tdtd
Translation: Since every body is calling him a troll I might as well do it too, even if it's not in the correct context or irrelevant to the topic.. Screw formulating logical arguments!

Please, tdtd, it's embarassing. I know you dig me; it's a cross I bear. But you can't go spouting it off to the rest of the forum. Your gay rep. is bad enough.

Find a new hobby and get off my ass.

What's embarassing? Calling me a troll instead or providing an argument, or crying about it? Oh heaven's no IKC, you didn't just mention my rep man. I lose sleep over my star wars forum rep... Ouch that one hurt.

Originally posted by Swirly Girl
And even if the lightsabre could block the beams, the amulet blast itself is far larger than Windu's body. If you use that theory, then all that will be left of Windu is a lightsabre shaped mass of flesh...

And the amulet blast that Kun uses against Aleema seems to be fundamentally different from the one he uses in the temple. They seem to be different amulets.

Either way, Windu dies within seconds...

How are the blasts fundamentally different. The only difference is the penciller involved in the comic. Also in response to your first point, the amulet blasts were only of such great magnitude because Kun could hardly control them.

Lol.

In all seriousness, I love how you don't ask anyone else who said essentially the same thing as me to provide an argument.

Huh. Fixation much, tdtd? If I told you once I've told you a thousand times, no means no.

Originally posted by BLAK FOX
How are the blasts fundamentally different. The only difference is the penciller involved in the comic.

Mostly because they don't rip out in a tight and expanding beam that vaporizes flesh and stone.

Aleema's not even singed. Kun references Sith magic when he does it. It's a different attack.

Originally posted by IKC
Mostly because they don't rip out in a tight and expanding beam that vaporizes flesh and stone.

Aleema's not even singed. Kun references Sith magic when he does it. It's a different attack.

That is because Kun clearly had learnt how to control the blasts and was therefor chenneling his own power through it and not the power of the amulet.

And the amulet blasts aren't sith magic?

Originally posted by BLAK FOX
And the amulet blasts aren't sith magic?

Did Kun know jack shit about Sith Magic (or the Dark Side) when he first used them? No.

Guess they must not be.

You don't seem to understand something that is fundamentally important. The amulet blasts only appeared to be so powerful and of such great magnitude in DLOTS because Kun couldn't control it and therefore the amulet blasts were working off of the amulet's power and not Kun's. So anyone with common sence would know that when he would learn how to control them, he would be using his own power and not the amulet's and therefor the blasts would be completely different. The incident when he blasted Aleema with the amulet supports this. Hardly affected her at all.

Originally posted by IKC
Did Kun know jack shit about Sith Magic (or the Dark Side) when he first used them? No.

Guess they must not be.

lol artifacts that were created through alchemy by the ancient sith ARE sith magic.

You don't seem to understand something that is fundamentally important

No, I assure you I understand the source material.

The amulet blasts only appeared to be so powerful and of such great magnitude in DLOTS because Kun couldn't control it

Huge ridiculous unsupported assumption.

therefore the amulet blasts were working off of the amulet's power and not Kun's.

The narrator makes it clear that it is Kun's rage that "unleashes tremendous energies." So, to be technical, he powered it.

So anyone with common sence would know that when he would learn how to control them, he would be using his own power and not the amulet's and therefor the blasts would be completely different.

Except there's no reason to assume they'd suddenly become different nor does your theory of the amulet having power on its own hold any water.

The incident when he blasted Aleema with the amulet supports this.

Except he didn't use the same attack.

lol artifacts that were created through alchemy by the ancient sith ARE sith magic.

That'd be nice if that even was what sith alchemy was. Aww, look who doesn't know jack about the primary source material?

Sith alchemy was used to "shape and twist" the forms of living things, as DLotS makes clear.

Sith magic was an advanced usage of the Dark Side.

Dude sith alchemy was a brance of sith magic. And creating artifacts such as those amulets IS sith magic.

Dude Fox, as much as I think IKC is a douchebag, you're wrong. The amulet was created by Sadow and therefore has a great deal to it, but it is dependant on the anger of the individual wearing it. It increased 1,000 times and 100,000 times with his anger. Now whether or not the attack on Aleema was different or just a lesser version of the large attack, remains to be debated.. And IKC, I ask YOU to provide arguments for Kun because you are the Exar Kun spokesman of these forums.. And I don't see anybody saying the same thing as you. I see everybody proving an argument for or against Kun, and I see you responding with "Mace dies within seconds". Yes IKC, what an argument.

Mace would definitely give Kun hell in a lightsaber duel, but when the Sith breaks away and starts wailing on him with the Force, Windu would go down pretty hard.

Exactly my thoughts, thanks poindexter

Mace is one of the best duelists ever produced by the order, with the unique Shatterpoint ability.

He's got a shot at the very least

FFS...

Tdtd, IKC, stop bitching like little school boys! Tdtd started it, as far as I'm concerned, seeing as IKC decided to just go with Swirly's opinion and (most likely) agreed with his argument.

Originally posted by Faunus
Mace would definitely give Kun hell in a lightsaber duel, but when the Sith breaks away and starts wailing on him with the Force, Windu would go down pretty hard.

I agree, Kun has shown us more in the force, but as far as a saber fight, why would Kun win. (No longer directly replying to Fanus) Kun does have his "uber" style (yes folks, they say that in the comics!!! Wait, no? Oh well), but Windu has both Vaapad and Shatterpoint.

The saber fight would be extremely close.

Exar Kun could beat Yoda or so I've heard.
So Kun>Yoda> Mace

If mace was on Haarun Kal he would win because all the natives would help him out