Battle Of Gods

I would say GOD from Saint of Killers issues would lose since he has been proven to be mortal.

Ahura Mazda from DAWN by Linsner is not all powerful and does not rank as high as the others.

The God from Image we know little about, but I do not think it has ever been mentioned that she is the creator of other universes, just the Image one. Of course because of the little data on her I am not 100% certain. If you look at Image comics the beings in heaven and hell do not seem as powerful as Marvel's or DC's so it can be said that Image's God is not on the muliverse level.

Now it comes down to TOAA and Yahweh/Presence. Both are suppose to be supreme beings in all of exstince that are above all. If this is true then their fight would go on for all time. However, Yahweh/Presence does not seem to be all knowing. He as made mistakes in the past and wanted to correct them, something that would not have happened with an omniscience being. From what we have been told of TOAA and what can be based on from The Living Tribunal's acts he is omniscience, omnipotent, and has omnipresence, placing him above the rest.

In the end from what I have said TOAA should come out on top.

Nah, Yahweh wins because he's stated as the supreme being in DC. TOAA (pointed out by GS) hasn't been formally stated as being the supreme being in the Marvel Universe. 😉

Thank you so much for your post.

This proves that my thread did have SOME purpose here.

Originally posted by Lord Urizen
The God from Image we know little about, but I do not think it has ever been mentioned that she is the creator of other universes, just the Image one. Of course because of the little data on her I am not 100% certain. If you look at Image comics the beings in heaven and hell do not seem as powerful as Marvel's or DC's so it can be said that Image's God is not on the muliverse level.

All correct except for one thing:

In Image Comics some of the Angels are said to be able to spark Super Novas. Abdiel from Curse of the Spawn had a sword that was capable of slaying even immortals, and he could have BUTCHERED Malebolgia with EASE if he would have been ALLOWED to do so instead of having to follow orders.

Also Angel Zera is considered one of the most powerful beings in the IMAGE UNIVERSE...she alone has been murdering "Forgotten ONES" the brethen of Mammon in thier attempt to take back Heaven from the Seraphs and the other angels in charge of Heaven.

Mammon, a Forgotten One, claims to be nearly omnipotent, he has authority over everyone and everything in Hell except for Satan himself.

Angela was also a powerhouse in her own right, far below Mammon but definately on a level that could beat someone like Silver Surfer or Thanos.

Although God is said to only have dominion over her one universe, I don't thnk Image HAS a multiverse, nor needs 1. Todd McFarlane doesnt really follow that idea so much. Image's one universe may be equal to DC and Marvel's multiverse, but who knows.

Ne ways, on topic of Yahweh..yeah he is fallible. He makes mistakes all the time, and he wanted to ERASE one existance to recreate another since he was DISSATISFIED with his current creation. He may have omnipotence, but NOT omniscience, and certainly has numerous personality flaws...as WOULD he if he birthed Lucifer.

TOAA does seem like the winner here, except Galactic Storm pointed out an interesting point: TOAA has not been proven to be Marvel's Supreme Being, only suggested so, and GS may be right about that. TOAA may be equal to Classic Beyonder in power, but that's another uncertainty.

However you gathered enough of an argument to convince me that TOAA might be the winner. Thanks for ur input, this debate feels much stronger because of everything you said 😉

Originally posted by Lord Urizen
Thank you so much for your post.

This proves that my thread did have SOME purpose here.

😖hifty: 😛

JVenom, that thank you was FOR YOU btw

lol sorry Batdude, thank you too, but taht was intended for J VENOM

Yahweh is a Vertigo character, not a DC character.
But either way, everything has gone to his plan. He's even mentioned it in Lucifer before.

Presence has never been portrayed as fallible, or even really been depicted on panel at all. The Presence -is-. It's not a character.

Yeah Juntai ! I missed you !

Yeah i know, the Presence is not flawed, it just is..its not a character, its just POWER...

I've been sticking to that fact ever since you mentioned it. 😉

However, Yahweh is flawed. He was dissatisfied with the current existance, so he wanted to erase it and re create it as if the current one never existed.

The VERY FACT that he was DISsatisfied with his OWN creation, and wanted to RE CREATED IT, shows his ability to makes mistakes....HENCE being a flawed being.

In fact, although Yahweh is wayyyy more powerful than Ahura Mazda, they have ONE thing in common:

Lack of concern for who they hurt.

They don't care who suffers and how much they suffer, all that matters if what he must do to fit his "great plan"

they are both bullies, and therefore flawed beings.

Oh well. At least we can agree that Wolverine with the power of his fanboys would pwn the crap outta all these guys by himself. 😄 😆

😆

And Juntai don't forget to read my message ^ i think i made some really good points there to you. 🙂

Originally posted by Lord Urizen
JVenom, that thank you was FOR YOU btw

Thank you

Ofcourse JVenom

you deserve it, you made an extremely GOOD argument.