Originally posted by General Kon-El
Spider-Man runs the gauntlet. Peter Parker has two hours between each battle. Where does he stop? His cartridge gets reloaded after every match.1) Russian
2) Ra's Al Ghul w/o weapons
3) Bane w/symbiote
4) Cyclops & Havok
5) Storm
6) Gog Wars Doomsday
Cartridge? You are aware that Spidey's webs have been organic for the past year or so, right?
Originally posted by batdude123
C'mon man. Cyclops has tagged Quicksilver AND Northstar with his blasts. They both make Spider-man look like a snail.
tagging spidey is much different. spidey KNOWS where the blast is going and is already moving. q is quick, but spidey sense is the difference. omnidirectional blasts? how does that work? he spins in a circle and shoots a wide beam? where has he done that?
bane with a symbiote would be VERY difficult to defeat.
Originally posted by batdude123
Because all Cyclops and Havok have to do is let loose with their blasts and spin in a 360 omnidirectional fashion to win. They don't have to worry about hitting each other since their powers are nullified on one another. Anyways, I think Cyclops should be able to take him out alone. I mean it's not like a normal laser where it has to AIM, all he has to do is LOOK at Spider-man and he's dead. Not to mention that Cyclops's blasts are strong and WIDE enough to level whole forrests, Spider-man ain't dodging them. Cyclops and Havok should be able to take him 10/10.
While I agree that Spidey probably wouldn't make it past #4, you have to remember just how fast Spiderman is. If Cyke went to blast him and missed, he'd go for the omni-blast. But he can only fire in a certain direction at once, and it does have a height limit, too. Anyway, as Cyke goes for that, the Spider-sense goes off and warns him of the upcoming danger (yes, he'll know exactly what is about to hit him and where it will hit him). Anyhoo, he can move fast enough to completely move out of the path of the attack (as in, behind and constantly moving out of the path of the blast). But, this is really just in Cyclops' case. Havok would indeed be able to hit with him his omnidirectional plasma blasts.
So...anyway, Spidey makes it to #4.
Originally posted by leonidas
tagging spidey is much different. spidey KNOWS where the blast is going and is already moving. q is quick, but spidey sense is the difference. omnidirectional blasts? how does that work? he spins in a circle and shoots a wide beam? where has he done that?bane with a symbiote would be VERY difficult to defeat.
Well, Northstar moves at the speed of light. 😉 Anyways, Quicksilver has stated one more than one occassion that to him, the world seems to move in slow-motion.
Originally posted by batdude123
Well, Northstar moves at the speed of light. 😉 Anyways, Quicksilver has stated one more than one occassion that to him, the world seems to move in slow-motion.
lightspeed doesn't matter if she flies into the beam. if q does see things in slo-mo, then his getting hit should be pis. or he was exaggerating his own power, as q is wont to do. . . spidey likely reacts as quick as q, AND knows where things are going to hit. that's a wicked combo.
and i'm only speaking of cyke here. mm also showed some good reasons why spidey should beat cyke imo. him AND havok would likely be too much in most scenarios and i can't really see anyway spidey could beat a well written storm.
Originally posted by leonidas
lightspeed doesn't matter if she flies into the beam. if q does see things in slo-mo, then his getting hit should be pis. or he was exaggerating his own power, as q is wont to do. . . spidey likely reacts as quick as q, AND knows where things are going to hit. that's a wicked combo.and i'm only speaking of cyke here. mm also showed some good reasons why spidey should beat cyke imo. him AND havok would likely be too much in most scenarios and i can't really see anyway spidey could beat a well written storm.
While I agree that Spider-man would probably be able to dodge Cyke's thin regular blasts, I still don't think that he'd get out of the way fast enough if Cyke let loose with his "I can level an entire forest with one blast" blast. If Cyclops were to let loose with a barrage of blasts or simply take off his visor, I don't think that Spider-man would be able to do anything. Seriously I mean think about it, if Cyclops looks DIRECTLY at Spider-man and fires with a blast radius large enough to topple a whole forest, I don't think Spider-man would be able to dodge that. 😬
Originally posted by batdude123
While I agree that Spider-man would probably be able to dodge Cyke's thin regular blasts, I still don't think that he'd get out of the way fast enough if Cyke let loose with his "I can level an entire forest with one blast" blast. If Cyclops were to let loose with a barrage of blasts or simply take off his visor, I don't think that Spider-man would be able to do anything. Seriously I mean think about it, if Cyclops looks DIRECTLY at Spider-man and fires with a blast radius large enough to topple a whole forest, I don't think Spider-man would be able to dodge that. 😬
So true cyclops looks at him prepares to fire spider sense goes off spidey dodges and cyclops follows by just moving his head, then fires a radius enough to level a forest, if its a concentrated beam spidey can dodge but a blast that can destroy a forest no....and then theres still havok lol.
Originally posted by Sparkz
So true cyclops looks at him prepares to fire spider sense goes off spidey dodges and cyclops follows by just moving his head, then fires a radius enough to level a forest, if its a concentrated beam spidey can dodge but a blast that can destroy a forest no....and then theres still havok lol.
Exactly my point. ✅
Originally posted by Sparkz
So true cyclops looks at him prepares to fire spider sense goes off spidey dodges and cyclops follows by just moving his head, then fires a radius enough to level a forest, if its a concentrated beam spidey can dodge but a blast that can destroy a forest no....and then theres still havok lol.
I don't think you guys understand what I'm trying to say. Upon sensing the visor-less beam, Spidey can move into Cyclops, ya know? Move right in front of him and/or around him. Cyke can't look everywhere at once. THAT'S what I'm trying to say. So, while I think that Spidey can take of Cyke, he can't take on both Cyclops and Havok at the same time.
Originally posted by Metalmanx
I don't think you guys understand what I'm trying to say. Upon sensing the visor-less beam, Spidey can move into Cyclops, ya know? Move right in front of him and/or around him. Cyke can't look everywhere at once. THAT'S what I'm trying to say. So, while I think that Spidey can take of Cyke, he can't take on both Cyclops and Havok at the same time.
I guess it really depends on how far away he is from Cyclops. 😬
Originally posted by Metalmanx
I don't think you guys understand what I'm trying to say. Upon sensing the visor-less beam, Spidey can move into Cyclops, ya know? Move right in front of him and/or around him. Cyke can't look everywhere at once. THAT'S what I'm trying to say. So, while I think that Spidey can take of Cyke, he can't take on both Cyclops and Havok at the same time.
Yeah I guess you have a point there, if hes close enough cyclopse is out of the game, then havok is easy pickings, unless he reacts fast enough after spider-man takes out cyclops.
Originally posted by batdude123
I guess it really depends on how far away he is from Cyclops. 😬
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i was just going to say the exact same thing! if they start closer to each other, spidey can dodge. if he's far enough away, a wide angle beam would be too difficult for him to bypass so he couldn't close on cyke and cyke would likely ko him.
oh, and in the respect thread, cyke MISSED quicksilver. something about q's speed being the only thing that saved him. duh!
What about when Spiderman took on the entire team of X-men, Cyclops included, during secret war and dodged his lazers?
I say he gets to 6 and loses there, but honestly, there are some very biases Cyclops fanboys here... he doesn't stand a chance against Spidey... and neither does Quicksilver, I have a scan of Spidey defeating him in one hit.
Originally posted by leonidas
😆i was just going to say the exact same thing! if they start closer to each other, spidey can dodge. if he's far enough away, a wide angle beam would be too difficult for him to bypass so he couldn't close on cyke and cyke would likely ko him.
oh, and in the respect thread, cyke MISSED quicksilver. something about q's speed being the only thing that saved him. duh!
Yeah, but he's tagged Quicksilver before. He's also tagged Northstar. However, I agree. If it's in close range, then Spider-man wins. If it's far away, then Cyclops wins. Oh well, Havok is there anyways and Spider-man couldn't overcome both of them.
Originally posted by Jade Lightning
What about when Spiderman took on the entire team of X-men, Cyclops included, during secret war and dodged his lazers?I say he gets to 6 and loses there, but honestly, there are some very biases Cyclops fanboys here... he doesn't stand a chance against Spidey... and neither does Quicksilver, I have a scan of Spidey defeating him in one hit.
That whole Secret Wars comic where Spider-man defeats the whole X-Men is RIDDLED with PIS. I mean, if you look back, you will notice that Nightcrawler gets trapped in Spidey's webbing and comments on how it's too strong and that he cannot break free! It's like "UH, HELLO?! YOU'RE A F*CKIN' TELEPORTER!!!!!!!!!!!" 😆 Yeah, so using that as evidence isn't really the be all to end all for this debate. 😬