Exar Kun versus Lud Kressh

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Originally posted by Jonathan Mark
You do realize of course that he lives in New Zealand where their daytime is our nighttime and vice versa?

So go drink a cup of STFU before you spew garbage.


Pwnt

Originally posted by tdtd
Like what fanboy? How many times do you have to be proven wrong. Sidious isn't in the same league as Sadow, this is a fact.

This is what I was referring to before. Something is not fact because tdtd says so. Is it ''fact'' that Yoda is superior to Sidious? No, it's a deductible assumption, but not a fact. As you believe that Sadow is Sidious's better, Lightsnake is convinced of the opposite. And as the one supporting Sadow here, it's your job to finally prove on your own that what you're saying is reasonable. Not factual, but reasonable and stable.

Your cute little quotes like "Sidious can do a thousand things before Sadow" are ridiculous, and as usual, unsupported

Unsupported? Can we say hypocrite?

Originally posted by tdtd
No, you obviously haven't read the comics, so why are you posting? No offense but research something before you post. One was blue, one was red, one knocked out Aleema, one destroyed everything in its path.

You're a liar. I just read both comics now and the first attack is pinkish red and the second is a more defined red. The point is, they were both red and any difference in appearence is due to the second attack being drawn by someone else.

Originally posted by tdtd
No, if you read GAOTS you can see most of the sith lords have amulets of some sort. Why not use it against Vodo? Same reason you didn't see him killing everyone with it, same reason you don't see Sidious using force storm on everybody or Luke zapping everybody with Emerald Lightning.

Either way you still have my above point to refute and until then, you will not convince me otherwise.

Originally posted by tdtd
Sidious' lightning is shit, which has been established.. Sith Lightning is the most common form of sith magic, there is nothing that suggests Sadow won't be able to laugh it off. I didn't know Attack A=Attack B in terms of force lightning and blasters, so your point is moot.

How is my point mute. If they had trouble dealing with blaster bolts, they would have way more trouble dealing with lightning.

Originally posted by BLAK FOX
You're a liar. I just read both comics now and the first attack is pinkish red and the second is a more defined red. The point is, they were both red and any difference in appearence is due to the second attack being drawn by someone else.

Either way you still have my above point to refute and until then, you will not convince me otherwise.

Yeh I took a look at the comics too. Identical colors.

I would go for Ludo because Kreia states the people of her age were childre compared to the Sith of the old and Kreia and Exar are in the same Time Period

Originally posted by Hokage Yoda
I would go for Ludo because Kreia states the people of her age were childre compared to the Sith of the old and Kreia and Exar are in the same Time Period

Good point, except that was the time of TULAK HORD, not Ludo Kressh.

Originally posted by Hokage Yoda
I would go for Ludo because Kreia states the people of her age were childre compared to the Sith of the old and Kreia and Exar are in the same Time Period

KOTOR II is just barely canon, it has no real value in discussions affecting the entire EU.

Originally posted by Xepeyon
Good point, except that was the time of TULAK HORD, not Ludo Kressh.

No, it wasn't. It was said at his tomb, she never referred to him. In-fact here's the exact quote:

"If you were to face an ancient Sith in combat, you would learn that we are as children playing with toys compared to the prowess of the old Masters."

Originally posted by Motoko Sama
No, it wasn't. It was said at his tomb, she never referred to him. In-fact here's the exact quote:

"If you were to face [b]an ancient Sith in combat, you would learn that we are as children playing with toys compared to the prowess of the old Masters." [/B]

Your right, but the statement is from a worthless source so the point is moot.

Yes, she was referring to Tulak's time, not Ludo. You have to access TULAK'S tomb, not Ludo's. there are different Ancient times. There are 4000 years ago, 6000 years ago, and 10,000 years ago. The point is, She wasn't referring to Ludo's Era, it was Tulak's Era. But let's try to avoid going off subject. Sorry if I started.

And Kreia should be taken with a grain of salt

Originally posted by Lightsnake
And Kreia should be taken with a grain of salt

In all matters concerning EU beyond the KOTOR series, she should be completely disregarded.

Originally posted by Xepeyon
Yes, she was referring to Tulak's time, not Ludo.

Proof being? "An Ancient Sith" is not referring to Hord's time. It's referring to the entire Ancient Sith.

You have to access TULAK'S tomb, not Ludo's.

Point being? You can go up to Ragnos' tomb and Sadow's tomb. They aren't that much different in time apart. I mean, Ragnos and Sadow existed once at the same time.

There are 4000 years ago, 6000 years ago, and 10,000 years ago.

Ancient Sith only goes up to 7,000 BBY according to the NEC.

The point is, She wasn't referring to Ludo's Era, it was Tulak's Era.

Sorry, but she was, indeed, referring to the Ancient Sith, not Tulak's time specifically, seeing as she gives no specific time, and then says "an", meaning anyone of them.

And Kreia should be taken with a grain of salt

Because she'd have any reason to lie about dead beings that wouldn't produce a different effect on her plans, right?

Not that this statement (or posts for that matter) really matter, or hold relevance though, I just felt like responding.

Once more: We have her hearsay and Kreia is a noted liar and manipulator...not only that, but since apparently Revan and the Exile are going to confront some of those ancients..

Originally posted by Motoko Sama
Because she'd have any reason to lie about dead beings that wouldn't produce a different effect on her plans, right?

You have to also consider how much accurate info she would have had.

Originally posted by Lightsnake
Once more: We have her hearsay and Kreia is a noted liar and manipulator

Once more: tell me what reason she would have to even lie?

...not only that, but since apparently Revan and the Exile are going to confront some of those ancients..

Well, we'll just have to wait and see.

It seems to me she had pretty accurate information on Ajunta, and Sadow.

What reason would she have to want the Force destroyed? She could want the Exile to try to surpass their level, want to keep him from a confrontation with one of the Ancients..

And Sadow and Ajunta would be two of the Sith Lords the Republic would know about, and considering their relatively recent history, especially Ajunta's

Motoko Sama, you completely miss my point. Are all ancient sith the same? No. Are all Eras the same? No. She referrs ONLY if you access TULAK'S tomb, she mentions nothing of Ludo's swordsmanship, especially considering they used SWORDS back then!

Ajunta Pall was over 20,000 years before Kreia's time. . .