Girl, 11, will be Britain's youngest mother

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Originally posted by Bardock42
Well having sex with someone against their will (and penetrating them) is considered Rape. An 11 year old can not give consent so I think it is that kind of rape. Not the forced one.

Originally posted by Eis
A drunk guy meets a hot girl in a party, he asks her if she wants to go upstairs... she says yes. They go upstairs to the bedroom and have sex.
If that was how it happened, I don't think it's right to charge him with rape.

how is this relevant?
search for the "oops i was raped" thread courtesy of backfire

Originally posted by Eis
A drunk guy meets a hot girl in a party, he asks her if she wants to go upstairs... she says yes. They go upstairs to the bedroom and have sex.
If that was how it happened, I don't think it's right to charge him with rape.

Well i might agree....but it is still considered that. By law....

Originally posted by PVS
how is this relevant?
search for the "oops i was raped" thread courtesy of backfire

Originally posted by Eis
We're discussing the article are we not? The father being charged with rape is part of the article.

Hmm comparing smoking to a rape charge...that's a new one.

Originally posted by PVS
it also says she is a smoker. should we now debate the harmful effects of tobacco?

We can, it's part of the article...kinda like the denying of the Holocaust is part of the letter to bush....just that the rape is actually mentioned.

Originally posted by Arachnoidfreak
Hmm comparing smoking to a rape charge...that's a new one.

yes, endangering a fetus and forcing it to have nicotine is trivial. birth defects, miscarriage, still born...all that nonsensical rubbish. you're right.

Originally posted by Bardock42
We can, it's part of the article...kinda like the denying of the Holocaust is part of the letter to bush....just that the rape is actually mentioned.

someone holding a grudge because i won at the thread? 😛

(SARCASM FFS)

Originally posted by PVS
it also says she is a smoker. should we now debate the harmful effects of tobacco?

Originally posted by PVS
someone holding a grudge because i won at the thread? 😛

(SARCASM FFS)

Thanks for the "sarcasm" bit...I'd have never guessed it...but yeah, thought would be nice to bring it up once in a while.

Originally posted by Eis
Correct me if I'm wrong but is the father not a big role in this whole 'issue'? Whereas her smoking is only slightly more relevant than the type of clothing she was wearing when she had sex.

see my above post. i say it is far more relevant because it just goes with the overall recklessness. a mother who doesnt give a shit that her baby is having a baby, and that girl is completely ignorant (intentionally or not) to what danger she is putting her child through IN THE WOMB. frikin kid hasnt even began existance and its already ****ed. very relevant imho.

any guy in the same scenario would be charged the same. so how is it something exclusive to the topic?

Originally posted by PVS
see my above post. i say it is far more relevant because it just goes with the overall recklessness. a mother who doesnt give a shit that her baby is having a baby, and that girl is completely ignorant (intentionally or not) to what danger she is putting her child through IN THE WOMB. frikin kid hasnt even began existance and its already ****ed. very relevant imho.

any guy in the same scenario would be charged the same. so how is it something exclusive to the topic?

Look my friend, if you find anybody that feels like participating in a nice little chat about the smoking issue with you, go ahead. I won't stop you.

Eis and me will in the meantime talk about the father being charged with rape, which happens to be part of this thread as well.

[edit]Remembered my manners.

naaa, the whole issue of her endangering her child is implied enough and really doesnt bear repeating imho, as well as common law.

Originally posted by lil bitchiness
Britain has one of the highest rates of teenage pregnancy in Europe...only little behind United States....just by a thread.

Its terrible, and tragic...not to mention illegal.

Originally posted by Eis
Is there any proof that he raped her or is it simply that he had sex with a ten year old?

Either way, plain stupid. An eleven year old is certainly not fit to become a mother.

I feel sorry for the baby. Well... that is if it survives the birth. And if the girl dies, then it's stuck with the mother. And you know a woman who lets her ELEVEN YEAR OLD DAUGHTER get pregnant, smoke, and drink is not fit to be a mother at all! This whole thing makes me sick.

Originally posted by PVS
yes, endangering a fetus and forcing it to have nicotine is trivial. birth defects, miscarriage, still born...all that nonsensical rubbish. you're right.

Whoa wait, I'm sorry, if I recall correctly...aren't you pro-choice?

Originally posted by Arachnoidfreak
Whoa wait, I'm sorry, if I recall correctly...aren't you pro-choice?

Err...being pro choice and being against nicotine during pregnancy are different things.

When I heard Eddy was pregnant I told her to abort. ABORT, ABORT, ABORT! I said BRING ME... A KNITTING NEEDLE!