Maestro vs Juggernaut

Originally posted by janus77
juggernaut presents nothing of a challenge, offensively.
he's like a blummin' turtle... he might be hard to crack, but he's definitely not impossible to crack, to SMASH... aside from the retarded, people understand that a character beneath abstract cannot be impossible to hurt.

How can you say that Cain brings nothing offensively? Juggernaut (Classic) has unlimited strength. Have you ever seen him unable to lift/break/move something?

And Maestro just does not have the tools to actually hurt/damage Juggernaut. 😬

he brings nothing offensively because he has zero mobility, range, speed ... he's just a parked tank... and without any ammo.

Maestro could easily bfr him, or perhaps just get strong enough to smash him. wouldn't be that difficult for Hulk, given what WWH and War Hulk have achieved in the way of stopping the "unstoppable".

Originally posted by janus77
he brings nothing offensively because he has zero mobility, range, speed ... he's just a parked tank... and without any ammo.

Maestro could easily bfr him, or perhaps just get strong enough to smash him. wouldn't be that difficult for Hulk, given what WWH and War Hulk have achieved in the way of stopping the "unstoppable".

War Hulk = Celestial Tech FTW.

World War Hulk = Didn't really do much in the way of stopping Juggernaut. Deflected him? Outsmarted him before he truly accepted Cyttorak's power? Sure.

Personally, I would've loved to have seen this new Juggernaut battle against WW Hulk.

I guess I just don't understand what you're thinking though. Zero mobility? As compared to Maestro's 3000% mobility? 😬 What range capabilites does Maestro have that appear to have dodged my attention? 😕

And seriously though: Why is it that Maestro can so easily BFR Juggy, but Juggy can't just do the same to him just as easily? 😐

all versions of Hulk grow faster, stronger, more durable ... that's just what they are.

all versions of Hulk are far far far far far ... more mobile than Juggernaut, more agile, faster reactions and WWH is >>>>> smarter too... thus bfr. victory to the swift of mind and body.

Thunderclaps and ground stops that can be felt thousands of miles away, that's a range attack.

Hulk's got much more strength (the strongest character to walk the Earth) and is at least equally durable...

Originally posted by janus77
all versions of Hulk grow faster, stronger, more durable ... that's just what they are.

all versions of Hulk are far far far far far ... more mobile than Juggernaut, more agile, faster reactions and WWH is >>>>> smarter too... thus bfr. victory to the swift of mind and body.

Thunderclaps and ground stops that can be felt thousands of miles away, that's a range attack.

Hulk's got much more strength (the strongest character to walk the Earth) and is at least equally durable...

Yes, I know of Hulk's abilities. I don't need the lesson.

More mobile...well, they do jump a lot. I guess Juggy doesn't need to jump so much, seeing as he can just run through things. Eh.

Agility is really kinda hard to gague here, so I'll leave that one be.

Faster reactions? I'll give you that Hulk does have surpising reaction speeds, but it's not as if Juggeranut is completely lost in this category either.

I will admit that for a moment I forgot about the thunderclaps and ground stops. But, in retrospect, there would be no reason to recall these anyway, seeing as they can do literally 0% damage to Juggernaut.

It would be a lie to say that Hulk is the strongest character to walk the Earth. For one, Juggernaut has UNLIMITED STRENGTH. Two, I think it's safe to say that Sentry (when he actually tries) could be stronger than Hulk. Could I be wrong about that? Sure. But the comics appear to be in agreement with me as well.

But humor me for a moment. What would be Maestro's unstoppable plan of attack here?

World War Hulk did NOT stop Juggernaut, the writer even said. He prevented Cain from fighting him too long. He used the word "stopped" as a metaphor for preventing Juggernauts plan to take down Hulk. He specifically said the Hulk did NOT stop his forward movement.

And Juggernaut is not slow. He was able to snag Angle out of the air and Cyclops commented on his fast reactions.

Originally posted by Ptr_Grifin
World War Hulk did NOT stop Juggernaut, the writer even said. He prevented Cain from fighting him too long. He used the word "stopped" as a metaphor for preventing Juggernauts plan to take down Hulk. He specifically said the Hulk did NOT stop his forward movement.

And Juggernaut is not slow. He was able to snag Angle out of the air and Cyclops commented on his fast reactions.

the juggernaut wins, from my knowledge the maestro doesnt get stronger the angrier he gets, so he cant overpower him at all