Originally posted by Blue nocturne
I like how you nitpick through the bible and select verses from the new testament but nver from the old.
* eventhough Christ existed before the foundation of the world, the Father did not yet introduced Christ in the time of the Old Testament... one can never be against of someone he/she never knows... 😉
I suspect if Jesus did pop up he probably wouldn't say anything - saying your Jesus, and believing it, seems to get people put in mental hospitals - one of my research projects involved work experiances in one institute - there were three men all claiming to be Jesus.
Still, to the question - I don't think I am Jesus, or the anti-Jesus. And I think I'd know. It would kind of defeat the whole purpose of the drama if they didn't know who they were (even if it did happen, which I doubt)
Originally posted by Imperial_Samura
I suspect if Jesus did pop up he probably wouldn't say anything - saying your Jesus, and believing it, seems to get people put in mental hospitals - one of my research projects involved work experiances in one institute - there were three men all claiming to be Jesus.Still, to the question - I don't think I am Jesus, or the anti-Jesus. And I think I'd know. It would kind of defeat the whole purpose of the drama if they didn't know who they were (even if it did happen, which I doubt)
What if one of them was Jesus? 😱
Originally posted by peejaydAlthough they won't admit it, Conservatives are much more enthused about the teaching of Paul than that of Jesus. Just listen to them, or look at what they write. Most of the time, when they mention Jesus' name, it isn't to promote his teaching, but to promote Paul's teaching about Christ. Unlike Jesus of Nazareth, however, who was a Liberal who built up the weak and the poor, while tearing down the mighty, Paul of Tarsus was a Conservative who did a great deal to put down the weak: women, slaves, Jews, homosexuals and the poor, while empowering those in power. St. Paul has proven himself the dream theologian of Conservatives, who for centuries has provided them any number of bible passages to help white, European, male, prosperous, heterosexual "Christians" keep the rest of mankind under their feet.
* please justify how Saint Paul is a heretic... 😕
Paul taught that the whole function of Jesus centred on his death which released the faithful from the burden of their sins, their misery and the power of Satan. In fact not a single word Paul wrote in the Epistles gives the actual teaching of Jesus, nor does he mention even one of his parables; instead he spreads his own philosophy and his own ideas
* that's it? <sigh...>
"If any man think himself to be a prophet, or spiritual, let him acknowledge that the things that I write unto you are the commandments of the Lord."
I Corinthians 14:37
* Saint Paul wrote the commandments of Christ in his epistles... and read this...
"And account that the longsuffering of our Lord is salvation; even as our beloved brother Paul also according to the wisdom given unto him hath written unto you;
As also in all his epistles, speaking in them of these things; in which are some things hard to be understood, which they that are unlearned and unstable wrest, as they do also the other scriptures, unto their own destruction."
II Peter 3:15-16
* your bad, even Saint Peter acknowledged Saint Paul and his epistles... but you did not? <sigh...>
Originally posted by ðµhµl gê†ñåh
Although they won't admit it, Conservatives are much more enthused about the teaching of Paul than that of Jesus. Just listen to them, or look at what they write. Most of the time, when they mention Jesus' name, it isn't to promote his teaching, but to promote Paul's teaching about Christ. Unlike Jesus of Nazareth, however, who was a Liberal who built up the weak and the poor, while tearing down the mighty, Paul of Tarsus was a Conservative who did a great deal to put down the weak: women, slaves, Jews, homosexuals and the poor, while empowering those in power. St. Paul has proven himself the dream theologian of Conservatives, who for centuries has provided them any number of bible passages to help white, European, male, prosperous, heterosexual "Christians" keep the rest of mankind under their feet.
http://liberalslikechrist.org/about/paulvsall.htmlPaul taught that the whole function of Jesus centred on his death which released the faithful from the burden of their sins, their misery and the power of Satan. In fact not a single word Paul wrote in the Epistles gives the actual teaching of Jesus, nor does he mention even one of his parables; instead he spreads his own philosophy and his own ideas
That explains a lot. I LOVE THIS !
this makes me want to be religious again lol !
Originally posted by peejayd
* that's it? <sigh...>"If any man think himself to be a prophet, or spiritual, let him acknowledge that the things that I write unto you are the commandments of the Lord."
I Corinthians 14:37* Saint Paul wrote the commandments of Christ in his epistles... and read this...
"And account that the longsuffering of our Lord is salvation; even as our beloved brother Paul also according to the wisdom given unto him hath written unto you;
As also in all his epistles, speaking in them of these things; in which are some things hard to be understood, which they that are unlearned and unstable wrest, as they do also the other scriptures, unto their own destruction."
II Peter 3:15-16
Even the Jews will acknowledge Jesus as a teacher, but to them Paul is a heretic....They know their OT, and they know what Jesus taught....Paul, scrapped it all and made his own religion based on Mithrasim...
* your bad, even Saint Peter acknowledged Saint Paul and his epistles... but you did not? <sigh...>
Even the Jews acknowledge Jesus as a teacher, but Paul as a heretic, and they know their OT very well!!..How come Paul never really quotes Jesus' words and his parables?...Pauls teachings are contrary to the OT and Jesus......His beliefs are based on Mithraism.
Originally posted by debbiejo
Even the Jews will acknowledge Jesus as a teacher, but to them Paul is a heretic....They know their OT, and they know what Jesus taught....Paul, scrapped it all and made his own religion based on Mithrasim...Even the Jews acknowledge Jesus as a teacher, but Paul as a heretic, and they know their OT very well!!..How come Paul never really quotes Jesus' words and his parables?...Pauls teachings are contrary to the OT and Jesus......His beliefs are based on Mithraism.
* Saint Paul acknowledges Christ greater than just a Teacher, He acknowledges Christ as a God, a Lord and a Saviour... however...
"And account that the longsuffering of our Lord is salvation; even as our beloved brother Paul also according to the wisdom given unto him hath written unto you;
As also in all his epistles , speaking in them of these things; in which are some things hard to be understood, which they that are unlearned and unstable wrest, as they do also the other scriptures, unto their own destruction."
II Peter 3:15-16
* you still can't refute the fact that Saint Peter acknowledged Saint Paul and his epistles... if Saint Paul's epistles are wrong, Saint Peter should have said so... 😉
Originally posted by peejaydJesus was never considered divine until the Council of Nicea by a vote.....During those times it was decided what scriptures would be edited in and which would be edited out....My question to you is WHY not include them all?
* Saint Paul acknowledges Christ greater than just a Teacher, He acknowledges Christ as a God, a Lord and a Saviour... however..."And account that the longsuffering of our Lord is salvation; even as our beloved brother Paul also according to the wisdom given unto him hath written unto you;
As also in all his epistles , speaking in them of these things; in which are some things hard to be understood, which they that are unlearned and unstable wrest, as they do also the other scriptures, unto their own destruction."
II Peter 3:15-16* you still can't refute the fact that Saint Peter acknowledged Saint Paul and his epistles... if Saint Paul's epistles are wrong, Saint Peter should have said so... 😉