Originally posted by Lethal_Rise
there's no way you can disprove that fan's response does not control a character's power/strength.
And yet, what the Writers says goes, and so far what they have written (that are not retconned) are facts in the comic world.
You can't start defending your character saying "O but it's because..." when you aren't even in control of the story line yourself. Of course you can have your opinions, but making your opinions come off as what it "should be" when it isn't even what is going on is just ridiculous IMO.
Plot Induced Stupidity, or PIS, is when characters don't use their abilities or skills to the fullest extent as shown before, even within their personality ranges, for the sake of the story plotline. It makes lesser powered characters an actual challenge against higher powered characters in the comics. Examples of PIS include Flash stories lasting longer than three panels, or Toy Man as a threat to Superman.
Character Induced Stupidity, or CIS, on the other hand, refers to any natural mental limitations that characters impose upon themselves and reduce their ability to use their own skills and powers effectively. Unlike PIS, CIS does not occur because the plot requires it, but because the character is genuinely that dumb. Examples of the CIS-afflicted include characters such as Rhino or Jar Jar Binks. Events of CIS are not exempt from debates
Than there's svfl
Spiderman vs. Firelord, or SvFL, is a shorthand that refers to any time when a character performs a feat that their powers and skills should be blatantly insufficient for, and is not repeated or is rarely repeated again relative to the character's overall established career, as well as the character's opponents' established showings. In statistical terms, it is an outlier, something that is radically beyond the character's established capabilities. For example, Spiderman defeating a herald of Galactus is a case of the SvFL exemption; however, Batman being able to sneak up on Superman is not because he has done so frequently under different writers.
For standard debates, feats considered to fall under the SvFL exemption are not valid. Likewise, examples of writing which go against firmly set canon are also ignored. For example, in Larry Hama's run of Batman and Grell's run of Iron Man, both characters were out of character and did things very much against established canon; therefore those runs are disregarded.
Ah ok cool thanks Souljaboy.
I'd have to agree with that. However, the same thing happened to Hulk when Spider-Man KOed him. Been argued to death here, but even though it was stupid, I have to say it's fact since it was written and wasn't retconned.
Spider-Man isn't greater than Hulk, but he did kick his ass.