Apocalypse vs Fantastic Four

Originally posted by Deadpool14
Apocalypse loses cause he drowns in his own droul over Invisible Woman: Jessica Alba!drool

if it was apocalypse in his good showings he'd just grow and step on them.

FF could develope a weapon while fighting. have thing and torch keep Apoc distracted. how did Reed get Susie, tell me that! she is, as he would say it: lightyears, out of his league. that's why it's a comic.

Or Apoc could teleport to Johnny, snap his neck, k.o. Thing or BFR him, then deal with Reed and Sue.

Apoc gets no love around here. He'd take the Fantastic 4 on the forums. There's no plot devices here. Without plot devices, Galactus would kill the Fantastic Four in a fraction of a second.

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FF take Apocalypse 9/10

Apocalypse me be powerful but he's not that powerful.

This is what happen he teleports in takes control of their minds and makes them fight till they are all dead.

Originally posted by Grimm22
FF takes it.

Reed is smarter.

Ben is stronger

and Sue is more powerful

N'uff Said

You know all what you've typed is complete bullshit right?

Apoc is smarter than Reed. Much, much smarter than Reed.

Apoc is waaaay stronger than Ben

and he's more powerful than Sue (Celestial Tech).

Apoc wins this encounter more often than not.

on his best days Apoc took a scream from black bolt, he fought with the hulk, was beating loki one on one when loki is said to have been at his most powerful, and was defeating a prime eternal later on i believe, he grows to the size of the baxter building or bigger, blasts them all within a nano second, ben isnt strong enough to beat him, human torch doesnt have the fire power to hurt him, sue even with her force fields might not hurt him since mortal wounds are said to not kill Apoc and she might need alot of time to hurt him and Mr Fantastic wouldnt even stand a chance. Can sues sheilds protect against mind attacks if not he might use his mental powers to best her.

Originally posted by Lethal_Rise
not that, but the fact that he's a rip-off of one of the world's best heros: plastic man. I hope plastic man eats mr. f in some crossover

How they are nothing alike.

Seriously Reed is nothing like PM.

Originally posted by GODSCRIBE
You know all what you've typed is complete bullshit right?

Apoc is smarter than Reed. Much, much smarter than Reed.

Erg 😠

Unless Apocolypse can match intelligence with Doom then I suggest you stop talking

Originally posted by TheKahn
Nope, Plastic man was created by Jack Cole for Quality Comics in 1941 (he was acquired by DC in 1956), while Elongated Man was created by Julius Schwartz for DC in 1960.

I wouldn't say Mr. Fantastic is necessarily a ripoff as their characters are really quite different in regards to their personalities. It's just superpowers tend to get recycled in comics. 😬

there is no prep here anyway so in this battle reed can be as smart as he wants it doesnt matter and reed isnt five thousand years old so Apoc SHOULD be smarter.

Originally posted by Grimm22
Erg 😠

Unless Apocolypse can match intelligence with Doom then I suggest you stop talking

He can easily match the intelligence of Doom. Easily.

Originally posted by Grimm22
Erg 😠

Unless Apocolypse can match intelligence with Doom then I suggest you stop talking

Apoc is not the level of Doom.
Doctor Doom is the smartest man in the Marvel Universe.
Apoc is a different kind of smart, though.
His forte for the past 5000 years has been war.
His second best is genetics.
He is smart, and could probably outwit Doom, but he is not 'smart' like Doom is, ya know what I'm gettin' at?

Originally posted by UltimateStryfe
Apoc is not the level of Doom.
Doctor Doom is the smartest man in the Marvel Universe.
Apoc is a different kind of smart, though.
His forte for the past 5000 years has been war.
His second best is genetics.
He is smart, and could probably outwit Doom, but he is not 'smart' like Doom is, ya know what I'm gettin' at?

In my opinion Apocalypse is smarter.

Anyway, lately how Apocalypse has been written, he would lose.

Both written properly, Apocalypse should win fairly eaisly.

id say reed is smarter. despite his intelligence apocalypse always overlooks something, underestimates someone or assumes too much. ben is little more than a physical annoyance to apocalypse who can enhance his strength to a "virtually unlimited degree". sue would be his biggest immediate threat and i dont think she could stand against him too long. johnny could hurt him, but not enough to really make a difference. so it comes down to reeds mind. i think the ff would win with all the inventions reed has lying around. if it was a straight arena fight apocalypse would take it, if its anywhere near the baxter building or anywhere reed can get his hands on some tech the ff have a decent chance.