Originally posted by MrHeavySilenceBS. Sabretooth has a problem with going berserk, that does not in any way make him stupid. He is intelligent enough to be an expert hacker, able to slip into US government classified files with ease.
Batman 6/10, Sabertooth is an idiot.
Originally posted by DinalfosBats toys will be almost completely useless against Sabretooth's healing ability and Sabretooth has JAB SLASH, which has more priority that bat-kick any day of the week.
But Batman has toys. Plus preptime. Plus the almighty BATKICK.
Originally posted by Lethal_RiseAnd how exactly is Batman going to do that? To use someone's strength against them you need some sort of advantage like superior speed. Oh, wait, Sabes is faster than Bats too.
he's crazy and battle smart, but batman would prolly end up using his strength against him.
Originally posted by MrHeavySilenceSabretooth may not have the same EXACT intelligence and training that Wolverine has, but he does have a similar amount of experience. The only difference is that Wolverine has more ninja and oriental fighting expertise than Sabes due to having been taught by Ogun. Other than that they are very similar as far as intelligence goes. Sabretooth has proven that he is very capable of being brilliant. Just look at what he did to Weapon X, Wolverine, his friends, Lady D, and Omega Red not too long ago.
Sabretooth so does not have the same intelligence as Wolverine. He's a complete sucker for traps.
Originally posted by MrHeavySilenceWolverine has NEVER done that to Sabretooth. Wolverine tackled Sabretooth of a cliff in Wolverine # 10. The only reason he did this is because Sabretooth was about to kill him. Sadly it didn't matter anyway because Sabretooth got up first anyway, having landed on top of Wolverine.
Man, don't compare him to Wolverine. Logan either throws him off a cliff, an abyss, or some kind of open chasm- that's how easy Sabretooth can be outsmarted.
Originally posted by MrHeavySilenceThis has NEVER happened. Wolverine has only ever tackled Sabretooth off cliffs and it was usually a desperation move.
Dude, it has everything to do with it. Sabretooth almost beats Wolverine every time but Logan, who is weaker, intelligently slingshots him off the cliff.
Originally posted by MrHeavySilenceAgain, this hasn't happened even once. Wolverine has never arm-dragged Sabretooth into a chasm. He has only ever used a desperate all or nothing suicide tackle over a cliff, something Batman is too weak and slow to do and wouldn't be able to survive anyway. Only reason it ever worked for Wolverine was because Sabretooth didn't expect Wolverine to rush him like a madman.
It has everything to do with intelligence, if he's not good enough to avoid stuff like that, Batman is going to trump him. How many times has Wolverine arm dragged him into an open chasm? He just doesn't use his brain in battle.
The whole "getting pushed over a cliff" idea is stupid to begin with. Batman gets shoved off a lot more high structures than Wolverine and Sabretooth combined and he gets hurt doing it far more often, even though he has a rope and Sabretooth does not. Getting shoved off a building will help Sabretooth more than it will Batman.
If Sabretooth gets pushed off guess what? HE'LL BE FINE IN NO TIME!!
If Batman gets pushed off he has to:
A) get his line out in time and carefully navigate so he doesn't hit a building.
B) Make sure Sabretooth doesn't jump down after him and grab him in mid-air, since Sabretooth has no fear of falling.
C) Then he has to play a stealth game against Sabretooth when he lands. A game that Sabretooth has all the advantages in.
Originally posted by jinzinExactly, Sabretooth gives Wolverine a hell of a fight just about EVERY time.
wolverine doesn't always win.. 😕
Originally posted by jinzinThis isn't strictly true. Wolverine has more than 2 clean wins over Creed, but the important thing is that in terms of power and skill Creed outclasses Batman just as easily as Wolverine would, if not more.
wolverine has won twice against sabretooth straight up... and only twice... and one of those wins was off panal....
the only other times wolverine has won as been with help, a plot device, or because sabretooth literally let him win.
Originally posted by bigbranClawSlash= Mega Death!!
batkick=death!
Originally posted by ApolloknightBatman's sonics cant hurt Superman that badly and his hearing is 1000 times more sensitive than Daredevil's is Sabretooth's hearing is slightly below DD, so he should be able to withstand the sonics. He also has a healing factor that will repair damaged eardrums almost instantaneously. If Wolverine could team up with Banshee for all those years Sabretooth shouldn't have a problem here.
Couldnt bats use sonics on him?
Originally posted by Dr. ZaiusNah:
No prep equals rough time for Bats on this one. If Bats still has access to gadgets, then I think he wins the majority. If it's just hand2hand, maybe a split.
Originally posted by riceroost
Hand 2 hand = 100/10 Sabes
No prep w/ gadgets = 9/10 Sabes
Prep = 7/10 Sabes
If Sabes gets prep = 50/10 Sabes
Fraid not.
Hand to hand? Sabertooth, 10/10.
Gadgets? Sabertooth 9/10(if not still 10/10)
Prep? 10/10 Batman.
One sided or not, Batman beats anyone lower than celestial level with prep.
Originally posted by riceroost
Wow, and people call me a fanboy.Batman shouldn't be able to do jack even with prep when he is physically incapable of seeing and reacting to the person he is fighting.
I'm not a fanboy, I'm just a forum poster who has too many times heard the words:
"Motherbox"
"Phantom Zone Generator"
"He borrows a ring"
it looks like some of you forgot creed was in the weapon x and the CIA
please read!!!
Sabretooth is an excellent hand to hand combatant, having been trained by various organizations such as the CIA, Weapon X, the Foreigner, and HYDRA. He is also an expert hunter and tracker, even without the use of his heightened senses. Sabretooth also has developed a high resistance to telepathic probing and manipulation. Although his extreme arrogance gives him the appearance of stupidity, he is actually quite intelligent. He routinely hacks into government databases to steal classified information, and has escaped the highest levels of incarceration"
from wikipedia
with prep bats win. he would learn all about creed and his powers, and then learn about his (sabertooth's) training so he (bats) can lay down plan A, B, C, and D if needed.
Batman is the prep and execution king, they didn't let him in the JLA for nothing. (c-mon now, a non powered human in a universaly feared and respected peace keeping force, he must be doing somthing right)
no prep means Bruce becomes another meal on the table for Sabertooth.
Originally posted by complexbrother
with prep bats win. he would learn all about creed and his powers, and then learn about his (sabertooth's) training so he (bats) can lay down plan A, B, C, and D if needed.Batman is the prep and execution king, they didn't let him in the JLA for nothing. (c-mon now, a non powered human in a universaly feared and respected peace keeping force, he must be doing somthing right)
no prep means Bruce becomes another meal on the table for Sabertooth.
end and be all for this fight!!!!!
Originally posted by complexbrother
with prep bats win. he would learn all about creed and his powers, and then learn about his (sabertooth's) training so he (bats) can lay down plan A, B, C, and D if needed.Batman is the prep and execution king, they didn't let him in the JLA for nothing. (c-mon now, a non powered human in a universaly feared and respected peace keeping force, he must be doing somthing right)
no prep means Bruce becomes another meal on the table for Sabertooth.
Man where the hell is batdude at, Im waiting to read that post on batmans powers anytime now.
Originally posted by complexbrotherHow does bats knowing about Sabretooth's training help him beat Sabretooth? Sabretooth has more training than Bats does. A lot more.
with prep bats win. he would learn all about creed and his powers, and then learn about his (sabertooth's) training so he (bats) can lay down plan A, B, C, and D if needed.
Originally posted by complexbrotherBatman's use of prep and his execution of it isn't something that only he can do. Any highly trained individual with detailed information on their opponent and the right tools can do the exact same things that Batman can. Just look at Green Arrow. There's a guy who is not generally known for his almighty PREP ability, yet he played Deathstroke (a guy who punked Batman HARD) like he was an amateur. And I still dont get the awesome power of the PREP. Yeah strategically it helps to know and be prepared for the enemy with a plan, but Bat-Fans act like it's an automatic win every single time, which is far from the case. And another important thing to consider is that in the JLA it's SUPERHUMANS using his plans. Superhumans could make a plan work that shouldn't or couldn't because they are...superhuman. This doesn't mean it's a brillinat plan, although they usually are. With Batman executing the plans it's a different ballgame altogether. I have asked this many times, yet I have yet to get an answer:
Batman is the prep and execution king, they didn't let him in the JLA for nothing. (c-mon now, a non powered human in a universaly feared and respected peace keeping force, he must be doing somthing right)
How often does Batman's prep successfuly work against someone with more training than he has? And how would his prep be successful a majority of the time against a more experienced, better trained opponent?
Originally posted by complexbrotherYou would think wouldn't you?
no prep means Bruce becomes another meal on the table for Sabertooth.