Odin Vs Thanos

Started by roughrider4 pages

Originally posted by nimrod009
Definitely a stalemate. I think if the fight had gone on for longer, Thanos would have got in some decent attacks of his own. He took the best Odin had and was was still standing, not hugely perturbed by it all.

Excellent showing for Thanos in my opinion.

So - does that mean the first fight between Champion and the Thing was a stalemate? The Thing would later say Champion nearly killed him - and he did get beaten within an inch of his life. But because Ben was standing on wobbly legs, because he has such great heart, and Champion saluted him as a great opponent - that's a stalemate?

It's a parallel case right beside the Odin/Thanos fight. Thanos got up quickly after some early shots, but by the end it clearly shows him painfully rising to his feet. Why did it take so many panels for him to get up, if he wasn't struggling? It's a great endurance showing for Thanos that he got that far, but that's all it is.

Originally posted by roughrider
So - does that mean the first fight between Champion and the Thing was a stalemate? The Thing would later say Champion nearly killed him - and he did get beaten within an inch of his life. But because Ben was standing on wobbly legs, because he has such great heart, and Champion saluted him as a great opponent - that's a stalemate?

That's a good point you raise.

I guess it's open to interpretation - my reading of it was that Thanos still had plenty more to give, but that's just my opinion as stated earlier.

Originally posted by nimrod009
Nope, stalemate implies there can be no victor. Even if the battle is completely one sided, if there's no means of achieving victory, this is a stalemate.

Go play some chess.

Merriam-Webster's non-chess definition of a stalemate is a a drawn contest...a deadlock. Definition for a deadlock:

Main Entry: dead·lock
Pronunciation: 'ded-"läk
Function: noun
1 : a state of inaction or neutralization resulting from the opposition of EQUALLY powerful uncompromising persons or factions : STANDSTILL
2 : a tie score

Yes, Thanos showed incredible durability for standing up after those attacks. He was taking a lot of shots from Odin. However, Odin was taking shots from Thanos as well, and they weren't nearly as effective. Thanos still probably could go for quite some time, but Odin didn't exactly look tired himself.

"Nope, stalemate implies there can be no victor. Even if the battle is completely one sided, if there's no means of achieving victory, this is a stalemate."

If its completely one side, then it means whoever is on the low its holding its own against whoever is beating him/looking better.

Originally posted by King KAM
looks fine to me

Then why take so many pics showing him getting up? The whole point was to show Thanos' resilience in getting up even though he was hurt. Otherwise, there was no point in the multiple pics.

I'm going to disagree with everyone and say that if thanos used all his available tech, he could beat Odin. Odin Force durability is overrated, and i think Thanos could withstand the immense, adamantium melting punishment being dished out, if he used the shields that protected him against Galactus, in his recent mini. 🙂

Originally posted by R.O.T. Yahman
I'm going to disagree with everyone and say that if thanos used all his available tech, he could beat Odin. Odin Force durability is overrated, and i think Thanos could withstand the immense, adamantium melting punishment being dished out, if he used the shields that protected him against Galactus, in his recent mini. 🙂
Thanos could at least last a while with tech like the kind he used against Galactus.

Originally posted by Acrosurge
Thanos could at least last a while with tech like the kind he used against Galactus.

Tech which only gave him short-lived protection, until he could get Galactus to listen to him.

I believe the unwritten yet understood rule in comics is, when two beings of vast power meet one another, Magic/Divine power trumps Science-Based power. Yes?

Originally posted by roughrider
Tech which only gave him short-lived protection, until he could get Galactus to listen to him.

I believe the unwritten yet understood rule in comics is, when two beings of vast power meet one another, Magic/Divine power trumps Science-Based power. Yes?

Interesting , yes i agree.

But I don't think the Odin Force could replicate the power unleashed at Thanos ,by Galactus. 🙂

Originally posted by nimrod009
That's a good point you raise.

I guess it's open to interpretation - my reading of it was that Thanos still had plenty more to give, but that's just my opinion as stated earlier.

Thanos is a fighter but it was painfully obvious that he simply was not in the same class as Odin. Odin was being nice and giving Thanos a chance to give up. Thanos, using his control of his own molecules, gradually healed himself and stood up, but there can be no doubt that he was fried to a crisp while Odin looked zestfully clean and winterfresh. If Odin had not taken pity and stopped it would have taken Thanos a lot (A LOT) longer to reform himself. But Kudos to Thanos, he got slapped around and deep fried but still had the guts to stand up again in the face of overwhleming power.

Odin was trying to K.O thanos in that battle.

But failed.......... But Thanos couldn't mount any offensive attack against a stronger enemy.

Although Odin did acknowledge the infite power reservoir thanos can draw his powers from.

Originally posted by R.O.T. Yahman
Interesting , yes i agree.

But I don't think the Odin Force could replicate the power unleashed at Thanos ,by Galactus. 🙂

It could exceed it by a good margin. Even Galactus could blast Thanos with more power than he did if he really wanted to.

Originally posted by aliveinboston
It could exceed it by a good margin. Even Galactus could blast Thanos with more power than he did if he really wanted to.

Ehhh .... 😕

Originally posted by kgkg
Odin was trying to K.O thanos in that battle.

But failed.......... But Thanos couldn't mount any offensive attack against a stronger enemy.

Although Odin did acknowledge the infite power reservoir thanos can draw his powers from.

Odin gave Thanos a chance to back down with dignity. He did say Thanos has access to an infinite reservoir of power but that doesnt mean Thanos has the ability to channel much of it. In fact, he is quite limited in his ability, which is why he couldnt so much as burn a single hair on Odin's beard. Odin on the other hand has destroyed and created entire galaxies without much effort. But using the Odin Force (his infinite reservoir) leaves him tired.

I agree Galactus and the Celestials are on a higher level cosmically, than the pantheon of Earth's Skyfathers - science-based might or not. That's why Asgard & Olympus made their alliance against the Celestials thousands of years ago, to collectively resist another invasion.

Originally posted by roughrider
I agree Galactus and the Celestials are on a higher level cosmically, than the pantheon of Earth's Skyfathers - science-based might or not. That's why Asgard & Olympus made their alliance against the Celestials thousands of years ago, to collectively resist another invasion.

The Sky Fathers arent as powerful as the Celestials (this was a change from earlier writing by Lee/Kirby) but Galactus can't handle even one skyfather, let alone the entire pantheon. In the original conception, Odin really was all-powerful. For whatever reason, perphaps to be more "modern" and appeal to a new audience, Marvel had mechanical looking creatures like the Celestials come in and take over the God role.

Galactus will smoke a skyfather, dude 🤨 are you talking about.

Originally posted by the Darkone
Galactus will smoke a skyfather, dude 🤨 are you talking about.

He has tried and failed. He can't even beat Ego the Living planet and got his butt whipped by Ego Prime, neither of which are nearly as powerful as Odin.

Galactus can't handle one Skyfather, alone?
I'm not sure about that...

They don't have an acknowledged pecking order in the pantheon, but others seem to defer to Odin as a leader; even Zeus.

Ego=Normal Galactus, Odin is powerful in his own realm but doesn't mean he can't be beat by a more powerful being. Galactus was devouring Mephisto realm and Mephisto is more powerful than Odin, Ego is like other elders banned from deaths realm so he is more durable then before. Normal Galactus =Ego <<<<< Full powered Galactus, Odin will beat Thanos regardless but it will not be a walk in the park for either of them. Thanos might win a couple that it, in asgard for get Thanos doesn't have a chance in hell outside of asgard a better chance.