Originally posted by Soujaboy
Cyttorak is above Skyfather lv, he's close to or on par with Galactus and Eternity's power.
See people say that, but provide no proof. Galactus lvl? Ha, that's actually laughable.
Edit: As a matter of fact, I'm sick of hearing about Juggernaut being overrated and debating about him. I'd like some proof on Cytorrak's ability. I find HIM overrated to all hell. Im sure someone will pop in talking about his powerful "magic" (aka PLOT DEVICE) but the fact is Cytorrak gets put on a pedastal way too much. He's strong but he aint anywhere near abstract level.
At best, he's near cube-being level. Cytorrak has no business being in the same room as Eternity or Galactus. That's just poor writing
Originally posted by Soujaboy
Ok here you go, In Sorcerers Supreme #49 Cyttorak was able to imprison a non starving Galactus within his realm.In another instance Eternity failed at getting rid of Cyttorak, don't believe me ask Tron or look it up. According to those feats he's not overrated, he's underrated.
Key word, IN HIS REALM. and Galactus jobs to everyone and their mother anyways.
The second example is just PIS pure and simple. I'll give him the benefit of the doubt in his realm, but damn - I find it appaulling that people even take half of those feats in the Strange books seriously, the jobbing is almost laughable. I mean, Strange took on Eternity and even held his own against LT in a similar arc. C'mon, even high I can't seriously believe that. Bad writing. Not trying to sound like a Thanos fanboy (HE WAS INDEED LOSING TO ODIN 😛 ) but damn, the BIAS here can get pretty ridiculous.
Keep in mind most off the aformentioned feats are from 70's arcs, I'm sure they mean a lot today as the Marvel universe has changed so much since then anyways🙄
Originally posted by boriquaking55
Key word, IN HIS REALM. and Galactus jobs to everyone and their mother anyways.The second example is just PIS pure and simple. I'll give him the benefit of the doubt in his realm, but damn - I find it appaulling that people even take half of those feats in the Strange books seriously, the jobbing is almost laughable. I mean, Strange took on Eternity and even held his own against LT in a similar arc. C'mon, even high I can't seriously believe that. Bad writing.
Keep in mind most of these feats are from 70's arcs, I'm sure they mean a lot today as the Marvel universe has changed so much since then anyways🙄
It was never stated that Cyttorak was any stronger in his realm than he is any where else. So we cant just assume for that to be true.
Why not take what Dr.Strange does seriously? he's the Sorcerer Supreme, it's his job to do crazy shit.
How can Cyttoraks feats be PIS if he doesn't have any bad feats to compare his good feats to. Thus his characters isn't writ en out of context if he has few feats are good feats.
Originally posted by Soujaboy
It was never stated that Cyttorak was any stronger in his realm than he is any where else. So we cant just assume for that to be true.Why not take what Dr.Strange does seriously? he's the Sorcerer Supreme, it's his job to do crazy shit.
How can Cyttoraks feats be PIS if he doesn't have any bad feats to compare his good feats to. Thus his characters isn't writ en out of context if he has few feats are good feats.
Ok, I understand that. I'll leave Cytorrak out of this since he lacks substantial feats and a lot of info on him is speculative. Back on topic, I would think Thanos would have a higher base strength than Juggs, since Juggs main asset is his durability, not his strength.
Originally posted by boriquaking55
Ok, I understand that. I'll leave Cytorrak out of this since he lacks substantial feats and a lot of info on him is speculative. Back on topic, I would think Thanos would have a higher base strength than Juggs, since Juggs main asset is his durability, not his strength.
I agree, but if 8th day and other instances where Juggernaut was shown to increase his powers counted in this topic, Juggernaut would win.