Originally posted by Lord Urizen
Yes, but you have to understand. MANY Christians beleive they ALREADY know the truth. That is why some of them would disregard ANYTHING that is not part of thier Bible or Faith.
They become blind to things outside of the bible.
Blind faith, makes you good and ready to be controlled.
I know....
That is why I am often impatient for many Christians, and its not fair to them because NOT ALL Christians are like that.
My best freinds are all Christians, but they love me the way i am, and they never try to tell me how to live my life, and they don't think im going to Hell. They are about love and helping people become happier in life, nothing more nothing less. And they are very liberal.
Ultra Conservative Christians are the damn problem.
BTW Buddhism is my favorite religion !
I know....i know MANY CHRISTIANS who have had thier opinions changed by exploring the real world around them. Thier FAITH still was the same, but they became less judgemental and started to take certain parts of the Bible less seriously.
They came to the realization that there are many many truths and that perfection exists no where, not even in thier Bible.
That was the most beautiful epiphany ive seen.
The difference is that when you are debating on grounds of logic and science you are debating upon the modern grounds upon which society exists today, that has created civilisation and, aside from anything else, made things like computers and the internet to argue in the first place possible.
To take an opinion which rejects the importance of such things is obviously silly. More to the point, science, logic and reason seem very much opposed to such things.
You cannot say something cannot be debated simply because one side does not wish to do so on rational ground. That is simply grounds for that side to lose the debate.
I don't have to prove there isn't a god. They have to prove THERE IS a god.
religion cannot be debated and should not 1. because its a waste of time and 2 because its a "ur wrong" "no ur wrong" battle.......u cant debate opinions
I agree. Anything can be debated, but my actual desire is to know if this kind of debate can ever lead anywhere between one who totally rejects religion as any kind of truth and one who accepts religion as the ONLY truth......
The stupidity is that both sides do have some obviously VALID points, but those points will be disregarded since the OTHER will think that there is NO truth to the other's argument.
I find, however, that religious debators do this MORE OFTEN than non-religious debators.
Yes but Debbiejo, religious people REJECT many things in science that are PROVEN...they simply say they don't beleive it.
They reject evidense of evolution, they reject psychological reasons for explaining homosexual desire and behavior, they don't even ANSWER on the topic of dinosaurs....
Many religious debators are too stubborn and close minded to think they may be wrong.....
Originally posted by Lord Urizen
Yes but Debbiejo, religious people REJECT many things in science that are PROVEN...they simply say they don't beleive it.They reject evidense of evolution, they reject psychological reasons for explaining homosexual desire and behavior, they don't even ANSWER on the topic of dinosaurs....
Many religious debators are too stubborn and close minded to think they may be wrong.....
They can't afford to be wrong. They have wrapped their entire life around their religion. These people live with chains that are not locked. If they let go of a little part of the chains, they will all fall off, and they will go to hell and burn forever.