Wow, I was only half-heartedly wanted this guy to go to jail before, but now I'm really annoyed he got off. What a bastard. 😬
Originally posted by Nephthys
🙄He said he wouldn't do anything differently after killing a kid walking home with some skittles. Who the **** says that? How about not follow the guy who isn't suspicious at all and don't shoot him?
Like I said. That is an opinion of someone that did not view a single second of the case, much less search for facts, and more of the ignorant, uninformed, majority protestors' opinion.
You know you're proving my point, don't you? When I say "here are the facts, there was little evidence for a conviction", you come back with "yea but still you're a dick if you don't think Zimmerman deserves prison,etc". You just epitomize the majority of morons on this planet (not saying you're a moron just epitomizing one) who don't even bother to look at facts, and instead judge things emotionally.
What happened to Trayvon Martin is an absolute tragedy and I can't begin to understand how his parents, or the black community feels because I'm white, so I can't speak to that. At the same time, I look at the case and at the facts of the case and based on the evidence or lack thereof, the jury made the right verdict.
No, I'm saying you're a dick for jumping on me like this for having a different opinion. You don't have to be so confrontational and jump on me as soon as I as much as hint at a dissenting opinion. You know that I have looked at the facts, so I'm not sure what your point is and I wasn't even making a judgement. All I was saying was that he's a bastard for saying that.
I'm not talking about the verdict, I'm talking about what an amazing prick Zimmerman is for saying he wouldn't do anything differently. You're focusing on the wrong thing here and coming off as a belligerent ass.
Originally posted by Nephthys
No, I'm saying you're a dick for jumping on me like this for having a different opinion. You don't have to be so confrontational and jump on me as soon as I as much as hint at a dissenting opinion. You know that I have looked at the facts, so I'm not sure what your point is and I wasn't even making a judgement. All I was saying was that he's a bastard for saying that.I'm not talking about the verdict, I'm talking about what an amazing prick Zimmerman is for saying he wouldn't do anything differently. You're focusing on the wrong thing here and coming off as a belligerent ass.
I'm a dick for jumping on you for an ignorant, uninformed opinion? How crass of me, I apologize. Perhaps I shouldn't criticize the millions of morons out there protesting without any factual basis. I'm jumping on you NOT because of your opinion based on what Zimmerman just said, but your consistent demeanor towards Zimmerman throughout the case, which wasn't based on any facts.
Now take this into consideration: Let us assume that Zimmerman gave more or less, a factual account of what happened. Meaning he had a reason to be suspicious of Martin, meaning he was getting his ass kicked, and he pulled the trigger in self defense. From that perspective, what would you do differently exactly? I don't think he's an ass for saying what he said. I disagree with him in terms of following suspicious people around but that's because I'd rather be at home watching TV, but Zimmerman was a neighborhood watch guy, so no I don't fault him here.
Originally posted by steveholt956
I'm a dick for jumping on you for an ignorant, uninformed opinion? How crass of me, I apologize. Perhaps I shouldn't criticize the millions of morons out there protesting without any factual basis. I'm jumping on you NOT because of your opinion based on what Zimmerman just said, but your consistent demeanor towards Zimmerman throughout the case, which wasn't based on any facts.Now take this into consideration: Let us assume that Zimmerman gave more or less, a factual account of what happened. Meaning he had a reason to be suspicious of Martin, meaning he was getting his ass kicked, and he pulled the trigger in self defense. From that perspective, what would you do differently exactly? I don't think he's an ass for saying what he said. I disagree with him in terms of following suspicious people around but that's because I'd rather be at home watching TV, but Zimmerman was a neighborhood watch guy, so no I don't fault him here.
Indeed you are. Unfortunately that apology is insincere, so I can't actually accept it. And obviously my opinion is based on facts since I've demonstrated that I'm well aware of the facts. I heard about the case, read through the 50 page thread on KMC, some of the thread on Something Awful, then spent a few hours looking up the facts of the case and listening to those informative police calls on youtube. So I can assure you I'm hardly ignorant of these facts you speak of.
He didn't have a reason to be suspicious other than that he was outside in the rain and not hurrying. And possibly racism. He's also at fault for following him after the dispatcher told him not to. Zimmerman's actions are totally the cause of Trayvon's death, whether you believe it was self-defense or not. Had he waited for the police to arrive like he should have, Trayvon would still be alive. When theres such an obvious alternative that leads to someone not being killed, you'd have to be a real ****er to say you wouldn't take it.
Indeed you are. Unfortunately that apology is insincere, so I can't actually accept it. And obviously my opinion is based on facts since I've demonstrated that I'm well aware of the facts. [b]I heard about the case, read through the 50 page thread on KMC, some of the thread on Something Awful[/b., then spent a few hours looking up the facts of the case and listening to those informative police calls on youtube. So I can assure you I'm hardly ignorant of these facts you speak of.
What is bolded is deemed irrelevant to what you "think" you know about the case. The only real information you have is the so called "hours" of youtube videos. I can assure you, I watched 99% of this case in its entirety, and I felt the right decision was made. Add to the fact that I watched MSNBC most of the time (because I want to get an opposing side's opinion, no matter how stupid it is) and there wasn't an iota of fact in the opposing opinion. It was ALL more or less emotional. No facts, nothing.
He didn't have a reason to be suspicious
And possibly racism
Also, while he didn't listen to the dispatcher, it doesn't mean he was unjustified in continuing, nor does it indicate depraved indifference or anything of the sort.
Zimmerman's actions are totally the cause of Trayvon's death, whether you believe it was self-defense or not.
When theres such an obvious alternative that leads to someone not being killed, you'd have to be a real ****er to say you wouldn't take it.