The Battle Bar, Our Wretched Hive of Scum and Villainy

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Lol. This is why a large percentage of my portfolio is in physical gold and silver. I expect shit to hit the fan, although both metals hit an unexpected correction this year. I really don't understand how people still have any faith in the dollar.

Originally posted by Intrepid37

Even if Sidious was caught off guard or whatever hoers, Maul should not be able to do anything to Sidious.

Force pushes seem to be most effective when catching the opponent off guard.

Barriss floored Skywalker with the Force but that doesn't mean she's on par with him in the Force. In fact he ended the fight by Owning her with the Force.

But then I guess that's just part of Saber dueling, attempting to catch your opponent off guard for an attack, whether it be a physical or force attack.

Originally posted by DanBrown19118
Lol. This is why a large percentage of my portfolio is in physical gold and silver. I expect shit to hit the fan, although both metals hit an unexpected correction this year. I really don't understand how people still have any faith in the dollar.

Ahahahaha that's hilarious.

Wow, KMC is pretty shoddy these days. Spambots and inactivity plague most of the forums.

Thank Ush's glorious reign.

Originally posted by Stealth Moose
Wow, KMC is pretty shoddy these days. Spambots and inactivity plague most of the forums.

Let's spice it up again:

Worf would kick Riker's butt 😛

Originally posted by DARTH POWER
Let's spice it up again:

Worf would kick Riker's butt 😛

DENIED.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013/10/16/boehner-in-bind-speaker-left-with-diminishing-options-on-budget-impasse/

Say what you want, but the Republicans know how to play the publicity game well.

Considering recent changes only allow him to call a vote, it's a good thing he's "given up on the good fight".

Sen. Ted Cruz, R-Texas, helped clear the way for that vote when he announced he would not filibuster, though he opposes the deal itself.

And ******* I am, Sam I am.

Good to see Tea Party is being obtuse and that Boehner is putting his career and standing before the far right ahead of the country until the last second. DERP.

Still. Playing the publicity game. It's what I suggested the Democrats do.

The polls don't show that this is winning them any favors though. Already, the Republican disapproval rating is approaching 3 in 4 Americans. That's abysmal and no amount of "WE FINALLY GOT IT TOGETHER" is going to erase that. The Republicans just obliterated themselves for the next election.

I disagree. First, show me those polls as I'd be interested to see them. Second, I don't think the Republicans did any more damage to themselves than the Democrats have in recent memory. You can book a Republican president for 2016, it's just the cycle.

Originally posted by DanBrown19118
I disagree. First, show me those polls as I'd be interested to see them. Second, I don't think the Republicans did any more damage to themselves than the Democrats have in recent memory. You can book a Republican president for 2016, it's just the cycle.

I'm glad you're a firm believer in the Republican party. But the truth is that they are tainted with their ties to the cancer that is the Tea Party and America's becoming unable to disassociate the two.

MSNBC

[list]"By a 22-point margin (53 percent to 31 percent), the public blames the Republican Party more for the shutdown than President Barack Obama – a wider margin of blame for the GOP than the party received during the poll during the last shutdown in 1995-96."[/list]

The Gallop:

[list]"Implications

As the two major political parties are locked in a high-stakes political imbroglio that has resulted in a government shutdown and may cause the first-ever default on the national debt, Americans are more likely to view both parties negatively than positively. The Republican Party is clearly taking a bigger political hit from Americans thus far in the unfolding saga, with 28% rating the GOP favorably -- a loss of 10 points from only a month ago. This contrasts with previous Gallup findings from just before the government shutdown showing the Republican Party making up ground on a few key issues. Thus, the Republican Party's current strategy in the fiscal debates may not be paying dividends.

For their part, the Democratic Party has also seen its favorability rating drop since September, though by a smaller four points. Moreover, both parties are down from where they were just after the 2012 elections, indicating the many political battles of 2013 have had a corrosive effect on the two parties' images."[/list]

I'm not sure where you get a contrary opinion.

I'm glad you're a firm believer in the Republican party. But the truth is that they are tainted with their ties to the cancer that is the Tea Party and America's becoming unable to disassociate the two

I am not. I do however recognize the political cycles involved and those have been largely consistent the past 2 decades.

Taking an MNSBC poll about Republicans seriously would have the same effect as taking a Fox News poll about Democrats seriously. They're awful indications of actual public opinion.

Now Gallup I do trust. But I also look at Obama's approval and disapproval ratings. There's still 2 years left before elections so it's a moot point right now. But yes, I recognize right now that the Republicans look worse than the Democrats.

Originally posted by DanBrown19118
I am not. I do however recognize the political cycles involved and those have been largely consistent the past 2 decades.

Two decades is not a lot of time to attempt major predictions. Just over two decades ago, the EU did not exist, the USSR did, and the economic structure of the entire world was different (for one thing, we were leaders in manufacturing somewhat then compared to now). This doesn't sound reasonable to me to assume.

Taking an MNSBC poll about Republicans seriously would have the same effect as taking a Fox News poll about Democrats seriously. They're awful indications of actual public opinion.

Agreed, but I included it simply because it's one of many. But most are from obviously biased sites like LATimes.com and CBS.

Now Gallup I do trust. But I also look at Obama's approval and disapproval ratings. There's still 2 years left before elections so it's a moot point right now. But yes, I recognize right now that the Republicans look worse than the Democrats.

The Gallop has said repeatedly that "6 in 10 Americans" want a third party, that neither party is looking favorable for future elections. That's not to say people won't vote straight party ticket from now on still; a large majority of voters are old conservatives anyways. No, the point remains that the Republicans had this stunt blow up in their face and everyone knows it. This shutdown got more press arguably than the last, especially given that we weren't coming out of an economic slump back in 1995.

I get that some people's politics are a knee-jerk reaction to Obama and/or ObamaCare. I'm not his biggest fan either (Teddy Roosevelt/Alexander Hamilton for POTUS/VP) but he's looking relatively tame compared to the goobers.

Two decades is not a lot of time to attempt major predictions. Just over two decades ago, the EU did not exist, the USSR did, and the economic structure of the entire world was different (for one thing, we were leaders in manufacturing somewhat then compared to now). This doesn't sound reasonable to me to assume.

How often has one party won re-election and then the same party won the following election? I'm talking presidential. How often does one party win the presidency and also win both the House and the Senate?

The Gallop has said repeatedly that "6 in 10 Americans" want a third party, that neither party is looking favorable for future elections. That's not to say people won't vote straight party ticket from now on still; a large majority of voters are old conservatives anyways. No, the point remains that the Republicans had this stunt blow up in their face and everyone knows it. This shutdown got more press arguably than the last, especially given that we weren't coming out of an economic slump back in 1995.

I get that some people's politics are a knee-jerk reaction to Obama and/or ObamaCare. I'm not his biggest fan either (Teddy Roosevelt/Alexander Hamilton for POTUS/VP) but he's looking relatively tame compared to the goobers.


I agree. I can also guarantee you that those numbers are going to look pretty different 30-60 days from now. The political climate changes faster than I change my boxers.

Originally posted by DanBrown19118
How often has one party won re-election and then the same party won the following election? I'm talking presidential. How often does one party win the presidency and also win both the House and the Senate?

I grant you it is rare, but not unprecedented. I am not claiming that the Dems will take it all in the next election; that's incorrect. I'm saying the Republicans hurt their chances of winning any more but the most hardline votes (i.e. far right conservatives who would vote for them regardless because abortions and gay rights cause hurricanes).

I agree. I can also guarantee you that those numbers are going to look pretty different 30-60 days from now. The political climate changes faster than I change my boxers.

1. You should change your boxes more often.

2. I doubt the Democrats will let this go easily, especially given that any such agreement is expected only to go until December 15th, when the Republicans will either reattempt the same thing, or back down entirely or learn their lesson. In any cases, it'll still be an issue before Xmas.

YouTube video
Probably the best argument for gay marriage I've ever heard.

That is SO 2012.