The Battle Bar, Our Wretched Hive of Scum and Villainy

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IF ANAKIN HADN'T BEEN SUCH A BABY

At the height of the Clone Wars Anakin, who destroyed Jango Fett, hundreds of Super Battle Droids, Count Dooku, Asajj Ventress, defeated Windu and even Yoda in sparring, was a Jedi Master and in secret he was also Sidious's apprentice. He wielded two lightsabers. After Palpatine became Emperor Vader killed him and assumed role of Emperor himself. Crushing any and all Rebellions, he enslaved the inhabitants of Coruscant, Byss, and many mre core-worlds. Eventually he learned all of Plagueis's techniques, including agelessness. He then began to drain minute life force out of trillions of sentient beings under Imperial Rule to fuel is immortality for ten thousand years.

DarthAnt is probably cute tbh.

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NewGuy01
The novels are, not sure about the rest.

Zenwolf
It's weird with the novels, as I recall they are canon...but they aren't canon unless it matches with the scene in the movie. Meaning the context that goes deeper into a fight or scene within the movie, isn't canon.

I think some better clarification is needed tbh.


ares834
Nope. None of it's canon.

FreshestSlice
Novels are canon unless the movies contradict them.

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gents.

ares834
Novels are canon when they align with the movies. Which means basically they aren't.

To be clear: I was wondering whether this thinking is a restatement (of the straight interpretation) of the old policy or derived from a definitive post-Disney development?

Historically the use of novel- or guidebook-exclusive material, even that which is ostensibly contradictory of the film/show depiction of a given thing - e.g. the depiction of Mace Windu's Vaapad, to whom belonged the advantage when Anakin vs Dooku in the TCW "movie," Grievous and handspeed, etc. - has been at least begrudgingly accepted in varying capacities by lots of/most people here (depending on the constituency at any given time). I want to know if the arguments in favor (Stover said GL line-edited the novel, Leland or GL said this and that, imposition by medium w/ respect to speeds depicted, etc.) have been overruled by fiat (or, I guess, better arguments) or if that debate is still going to be happening. What consensus there is in your responses so far indicates that there hasn't been any explicit new word on the matter.

I summon The_Tempest.

From Disney. "To clarify, movie novelizations are canon where they align with what is seen on screen in the 6 films and the Clone Wars animated movie."

Originally posted by ares834
From Disney. "To clarify, movie novelizations are canon where they align with what is seen on screen in the 6 films and the Clone Wars animated movie."

Which is all fine and dandy, but is the context of the novels from those scenes that match with the movies taken into account?...

So kit Fisto's head being on Palpatine's desk and Dooku's fat ass knocking over a chair by trying to jump on it while dueling Anakin/Obi-Wan isn't canon? 🙁

ares834
From Disney. "To clarify, movie novelizations are canon where they align with what is seen on screen in the 6 films and the Clone Wars animated movie."
Zenwolf
Which is all fine and dandy, but is the context of the novels from those scenes that match with the movies taken into account?...

I really don't see why not. Seems silly to dismiss, say, the prose detailing the erosion of Anakin's psyche just because the metaphor isn't all explicitly played out on-screen, or that the film > novel invalidation of a specific physical event accompanying or precipitating a paradigm shift in the novel = invalidation of all relevant psychological/metaphysical/otherwise-descriptive literary context. Not even sure what the point of canonizing the novels would be were that the case.

Blax
So kit Fisto's head being on Palpatine's desk and Dooku's fat ass knocking over a chair by trying to jump on it while dueling Anakin/Obi-Wan isn't canon? 🙁

Book fights > movie fights. Although I thought it was cut out from under him.

edit: sounds like encyclopedias and sourcebooks and guidebooks are completely out, though. Good. Less to read to stay current with the canon.

The prose about Anakin's mental state doesn't contradict the movie, so that should be in. But the movie fights should > book fights.

Originally posted by Eminence
[B]I really don't see why not. Seems silly to dismiss, say, the prose detailing the erosion of Anakin's psyche just because the metaphor isn't all explicitly played out on-screen, or that the film > novel invalidation of a specific physical event accompanying or precipitating a paradigm shift in the novel = invalidation of all relevant psychological/metaphysical/otherwise-descriptive literary context. Not even sure what the point of canonizing the novels would be were that the case.

That's what I was thinking, but I see some people say that isn't the case, which I don't think makes sense. Because you can't really express thoughts or whatever in a movie unlike a novel...or well, you could but then it would just end up being really weird.

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Well, i guess they never learned their lesson lmao.

LOL

Hmm. It's been a while! Hope everyone is having a good 2015 so far.

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So I almost ****ing died today... how's everyone else's Sunday going?

I almost succeeded in assassinating a dude and making it look like an accident today.

n2b

LOL

Originally posted by Emperordmb
So I almost ****ing died today... how's everyone else's Sunday going?

I'm intrigued, share.

Both of you need to try harder next time.

Originally posted by DarthAnt66
I'm intrigued, share.

Drivers in Texas suck. Was driving down the road and some ******* crashed into me from the side when I had right of way.

You can drive???