The Battle Bar, Our Wretched Hive of Scum and Villainy

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Lol. Yes, the touristy places are SO awesome. Try thinking for yourself and go to places such as the fjords of Norway where there's actual beauty. Paris is a dump.

LOL @ calling Paris touristic. Every major city has its touristic areas. It doesn't automatically make that city a tourist spot as a whole. If you end up doing low quality touristic stuff every time you're in places like Paris, that's hardly Paris' fault.

And how many of these non touristic European places have you actually seen like Norway?

Originally posted by psmith81992
Lol. Yes, the touristy places are SO awesome.

Yes. That's why they are tourist places. 😉


Try thinking for yourself and go to places such as the fjords of Norway where there's actual beauty.

There are many beautiful places in Europe and some of them are tourist attractions as well. But there is something unique about Venice, that draws people there. Rome is a giant, city-shaped pile of shit, but you can still feel the weight of millenia when standing in the Pantheon. You can find beauty in Paris, London and Berlin as well, away from the typical tourist attraction - which are still attractions for a reason.

It's all a question of taste. I like Capri, for example, because - despite getting some tourist attention - it still is a save haven, like it was for the Roman Emperors 2,000 years in the past.


Paris is a dump.

I agree. And the motorcyclist on the Boulevard périphérique are hellish creatures spawning from drivers worst nightmares. After driving through Paris, I always wonder how they make it home alive...

Originally posted by Sinious
LOL @ calling Paris touristic. Every major city has its touristic areas. It doesn't automatically make that city a tourist spot as a whole. If you end up doing low quality touristic stuff every time you're in places like Paris, that's hardly Paris' fault.

And how many of these non touristic European places have you actually seen like Norway?


Paris has been a dump since the French Revolution. Do you think Paris is well...Paris, for the people who actually live there?

OL @ calling Paris touristic. Every major city has its touristic areas. It doesn't automatically make that city a tourist spot as a whole. If you end up doing low quality touristic stuff every time you're in places like Paris, that's hardly Paris' fault.

And how many of these non touristic European places have you actually seen like Norway?


Denmark, Finland, and to a lesser extent, Sweden.

Yes. That's why they are tourist places.

They're called tourist places because unsuspecting foreigners feel like they have to see certain things that are dictated to them in a tourist handbook. The red light district in Amsterdam sucks, Paris sucks, there's nothing inherently special about the louvre. I could go on but meh.

There are many beautiful places in Europe and some of them are tourist attractions as well. But there is something unique about Venice, that draws people there. Rome is a giant, city-shaped pile of shit, but you can still feel the weight of millenia when standing in the Pantheon. You can find beauty in Paris, London and Berlin as well, away from the typical tourist attraction - which are still attractions for a reason.

I agree with you about Venice and Rome. I gained a much greater appreciation for Italy the 2nd time around after playing all the Assassins Creed games 🙂

I agree. And the motorcyclist on the Boulevard périphérique are hellish creatures spawning from drivers worst nightmares. After driving through Paris, I always wonder how they make it home alive...

I'm still trying to understand how the French are so thin, given what they eat.

Originally posted by psmith81992
I agree with you about Venice and Rome. I gained a much greater appreciation for Italy the 2nd time around after playing all the Assassins Creed games 🙂
same tbh

Originally posted by FreshestSlice
Paris has been a dump since the French Revolution. Do you think Paris is well...Paris, for the people who actually live there?
Have you ever been to Paris?

Originally posted by psmith81992
Denmark, Finland, and to a lesser extent, Sweden.
Originally posted by Sinious
Have you ever been to Paris?
Originally posted by Sinious
Have you ever been to Paris?

Yes. There's nothing special about it. The roads aren't big enough to drive on, the French are unsurprisingly arrogant, and the food was meh.

Originally posted by psmith81992
They're called tourist places because unsuspecting foreigners feel like they have to see certain things that are dictated to them in a tourist handbook. The red light district in Amsterdam sucks, Paris sucks, there's nothing inherently special about the louvre. I could go on but meh.

I don't share your general view of the subject. Some "tourist places" (e.g. the Eiffeltower) are interesting beyond the point of having been there. But maybe that view of mine stems from the fact, that I usually try to get some insight "behind the scenes" when I visit places or attempting some "none tourist approach". Dinner in the "Jules Verne" for example is a unique experience. You should try that, when you visit the city the next time - if you haven't already. 😉

And when you're interested in art, the Louvre actually is special, although more for the stuff stored within. 😉 I still prefer Florence.


I agree with you about Venice and Rome. I gained a much greater appreciation for Italy the 2nd time around after playing all the Assassins Creed games 🙂

And then people keep saying, games aren't good for anything. 😄


I'm still trying to understand how the French are so thin, given what they eat.

Apparently, they don't eat very much of what they eat - or skip meals entirely. I was in southern France a few weeks ago and they don't eat much for lunch, given that they have some kind of siesta going on from 11.30 a.m. to 2.30 p.m. Dinner was bordering gluttony, though. 😉

I don't share your general view of the subject. Some "tourist places" (e.g. the Eiffeltower) are interesting beyond the point of having been there. But maybe that view of mine stems from the fact, that I usually try to get some insight "behind the scenes" when I visit places or attempting some "none tourist approach". Dinner in the "Jules Verne" for example is a unique experience. You should try that, when you visit the city the next time - if you haven't already.

I have not. But maybe you and I look for different things. I mentioned the fjords of Norway because the views are breathtaking and that's what I look for. Same with Ireland/Scottland/Iceland/Finland/Sweden I was not impressed with Paris but I did not dine at that restaurant either. The one place where I DO want to go is Germany.

And when you're interested in art, the Louvre actually is special, although more for the stuff stored within. wink I still prefer Florence.

Florence is beautiful and I visited a lot of places that had AC:2 significance.

And then people keep saying, games aren't good for anything.

It really is amazing the appreciation you get with these games. I was in St. Maarten a few months ago and on the flight back, I noticed a bunch of islands that were in Black Flag.

Apparently, they don't eat very much of what they eat - or skip meals entirely. I was in southern France a few weeks ago and they don't eat much for lunch, given that they have some kind of siesta going on from 11.30 a.m. to 2.30 p.m. Dinner was bordering gluttony, though.

I figured. I also don't understand countries that take siestas..

I take a siesta. Naps are very important.

Aside from cultural tradition, I imagine the point of modern siestas is fairly similar to the logic behind forcing companies to give their employees at least two 10 minute breaks in addition to their lunch per shift (at least in Cali, I dunno if that's a labor law anywhere else). Studies have shown that everyone chilling the **** out for a bit inbetween the bustle improves mood and productivity.

But isn't a siesta over an hour? I love naps too.

Originally posted by psmith81992
Yes. There's nothing special about it. The roads aren't big enough to drive on, the French are unsurprisingly arrogant, and the food was meh.
Dude, you should totally write a book on how to properly have a negative perspective. 👆

Oh boo hoo someone doesn't like a touristy dump.

Originally posted by psmith81992
I have not. But maybe you and I look for different things. I mentioned the fjords of Norway because the views are breathtaking and that's what I look for. Same with Ireland/Scottland/Iceland/Finland/Sweden I was not impressed with Paris but I did not dine at that restaurant either. The one place where I DO want to go is Germany.

I'd happily agree regarding the views. If I want "landscape", I usually go North. Scotland is one of my favorites. Although, I have to say, almost nothing beats standing at the Nordkapp at 3 a.m. in the morning in summer, where the sun does just decent into the ocean at the horizon but never actually goes down entirely. That's epic.

Germany has some nice landscapes to offer. Although I have to say, that I, being born on the edge of the Ruhr region, love the mix of "nature" and "industrial" more than anything. Some images you can get here in certain places are just screaming "post apocalyptic". And just looking at the sky at sundown at the Netherrhine could turn one into a firm believer of Beuys' idea, that God is coloring it himself.


Florence is beautiful and I visited a lot of places that had AC:2 significance.

Coincidentally, I last visited the city right after reading the latest Dan Brown novel. That was more fun that I'd thought. 😉


It really is amazing the appreciation you get with these games. I was in St. Maarten a few months ago and on the flight back, I noticed a bunch of islands that were in Black Flag.

Wasn't there one game with a Paris setting? Maybe you should play that before going to France next. 😉


I figured. I also don't understand countries that take siestas.

Well. It is basically a cultural thing. In southern France, you have some traditions from Spain blending in and I, personally, see a lot of sense in not working your ass off when temperatures eclipse 40 degrees celcius. And while in modern times, every single building offers some climate control, leaving them always feels like getting a fist of heat straight into the face in those parts of the world.

Originally posted by psmith81992
Oh boo hoo someone doesn't like a touristy dump.
You did touristic shit there cause you were a tourist. 😬

I can guarantee you there is much more to the city than what your eyes have perceived. 👆

You did touristic shit there cause you were a tourist.

I wanted to see what the big deal was.

Wasn't there one game with a Paris setting? Maybe you should play that before going to France next. wink

Yes I played Unity after going to France but the game was so awful I don't think it would have mattered.

I'd happily agree regarding the views. If I want "landscape", I usually go North. Scotland is one of my favorites. Although, I have to say, almost nothing beats standing at the Nordkapp at 3 a.m. in the morning in summer, where the sun does just decent into the ocean at the horizon but never actually goes down entirely. That's epic.

Yup, I want to do this.

Originally posted by psmith81992
I wanted to see what the big deal was.
And you've failed to do so miserably.

USA > Europe.