The Battle Bar, Our Wretched Hive of Scum and Villainy

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That's a lot. You mean to say you haven't analysed them yet? 🙂

I've analyzed those bucks teams. They were insane. 🙂

Yeah, the Warriors are gonna win the chip this year. And perhaps many more. Hopefully not 6. Or 3.

^ there might have been a few, but it gets less common the further the time-shift. I'm more into the NFL so maybe it applies more there than in the NBA; the 1972 Dolphins would probably get annihilated by a modern college championship team.

Ha. Michael Jordan is athletically superior to the vast majority of today's NBA players.

I'd say Lebron in his physical prime too, but he's admittedly not in his physical prime, so your point stands.

Quicker and higher vert I'll give you, not sure about speed. The thing is that Lebron is close enough in all those categories along with that strength edge and 260 pound frame. Too physically imposing.

Just thought of a lame af joke.

Why did Caedus impale Katarn instead of slicing his head off?

Because he didn't want to neglect the world of Kyle's beautiful beard.

:3.... I'll go now

Now would be a good time for an hero 🙂

Caedus fears the beard.

hahahahahaha

ur so funny

tell me more 🙂 🙂 🙂

I love jokes that make me cringy as **** and are an hero-tier cringy 🙂 That one definitely was 🙂 🙂

10/10 🙂 🙂 🙂

Ik. Though why would an hero for any of you plebians?

I'll live forever to spite y'all tbh.

Like literal dominance in the game of basketball? That has as much to do with skill as with physicality.

Lol Mike Wong bragging on Facebook about his gmat.

That's all well and good, but when you like at the stat sheet and find the two very comparable, (hell, Lebron's 4 best seasons are > Jordan's 4 best, in that regard) Lebron must be doing something right.

Don't take this as me saying Lebron is in any way truly equal to MJ, btw.

Who's better MJ the baseball player or Darth Bane the lightsaber duelist?

Gladly. Lebron's 4 best seasons were:

1. 2008-2009
2. 2012-2013
3. 2009-2010
4. 2011-2012

Jordan's best were:

1. 1987-1988
2. 1990-1991
3. 1988-1989
4. 1995-1996

Their average per game statistics over these 4 years were:

Lebron: 28.1 PPG, 7.7 RPG, 7.4 APG
Jordan: 32.3 PPG, 6.5 RPG, 5.9 APG

While Jordan's per game stats may seem better, this is largely because of the fact that the league during Jordan's time played a noticeably faster pace than Lebron has played. A look at the advanced stats tells us a different story:

Lebron: 31.275 PER, .310 win shares/48, 12.03 BPM (!!!), 39.9 VORP

Jordan: 30.95 PER, .310 win shares/48, 11.05 BPM, 41.9 VORP

note that VORP is a cumulative stat and Jordan played 32 more games than Lebron.

So yeah. Lebron's got the better 4 seasons. If you want a literal order it'd be:

1. 2008-2009 Lebron
2. 1987-1988 Jordan
3. 2012-2013 Lebron
4. 1990-1991 Jordan
5. 2009-2010 Lebron
6. 1988-1989 Jordan
7. 2011-2012 Lebron
8. 1995-1996 Jordan

Side Note: Isn't it funny how much better these two are than Curry?

Yeah, in terms of PER. I wasn't solely using PER to judge quality of season, lest Wilt's 1962-1963 season is the best season ever (lol it isn't) or that Curry had a better season than Kareem ever did.

Yes, Lebron has the advantage in win shares/48 and box plus minus as well. The pace this year is irrelevant, as this only concerns Lebron's best years. And yeah, Curry had the best offensive season ever, but his defense is so average I rank his season around the 5-7 greatest season ever. Jordan and Lebron have had better years and more better years.