The Battle Bar, Our Wretched Hive of Scum and Villainy

Originally posted by Sinious
I don't remember why, but I was anti-rhetoric for a while back then, which obviously is a naive approach and it made our interchanges more spicy, but I only criticized you for turning "serious" discussions into banterfests.

Tempest doesn't really debate anymore. Tbh there are times when he'll respond to a series of detailed arguments with some vague witticism that doesn't actually refute or address what was being said. But he can do this, because he's established a strong reputation from his past, he's eloquent, he's very good at flattering people/building a personality, and every once in a while he pops in to to say something smart/produce an interesting quote or idea, just enough for people to continue to take him seriously.

It's brilliant, actually. I think there's a lot to learn from him.

Originally posted by The Ellimist
Tempest doesn't really debate anymore. Tbh there are times when he'll respond to a series of detailed arguments with some vague witticism that doesn't actually refute or address what was being said. But he can do this, because he's established a strong reputation from his past, he's eloquent, he's very good at flattering people/building a personality, and every once in a while he pops into to say something smart/produce an interesting quote or idea, just enough for people to continue to take him seriously.

It's brilliant, actually. I think there's a lot to learn from him.

Even against Nai, if people were keeping score, Gideon would be losing because Nai would produce like seven arguments, and then Tempest would just respond with some vague mockery and the occasional argument just thrown in to not be too blatant of a troll. It's not out of incompetence, it's just his persona now.

He seems to be a lot more wall-of-text oriented on other forums like spacebattles and comicvine.

Originally posted by Kurk
wth is this thread for?

Talking about shit. Like Dooku.

Originally posted by The Ellimist
Tempest doesn't really debate anymore. Tbh there are times when he'll respond to a series of detailed arguments with some vague witticism that doesn't actually refute or address what was being said. But he can do this, because he's established a strong reputation from his past, he's eloquent, he's very good at flattering people/building a personality, and he pops into to say something smart/produce an interesting quote or idea for people to continue to take him seriously.

It's brilliant, actually. I think there's a lot to learn from him.

Yours is a good analysis of how he debates tbh. I don't disagree with it. He invested in accolades when they were ignored, stood his ground well against top debaters, and showed the perseverance to still be around and make sure the forum norms favor his beliefs. I joined the forums when I was more interested in ideas like "having impeccable perception that eventually leads to the ultimate truth" instead of having supreme rhetorical skills in my other areas of interest during the days when I first joined, so the timing wasn't very convenient with Temp. The fact that I was new and clueless and arguing (shamefully) against Sheev didn't help.

Old avatar was way cooler Ellimist.

Originally posted by Sinious
He was still investing in debates during the days I was referring to which is like 2-3 years ago.

Yours is a good analysis of how he debates tbh. I don't disagree with it. He invested in accolades when they were ignored, stood his ground well against top debaters, and showed the perseverance to still be around and make sure the forum norms favor his beliefs. I joined the forums when I was more interested in ideas like "having impeccable perception that eventually leads to the ultimate truth" instead of having supreme rhetorical skills in my other areas of interest during the days when I first joined, so the timing wasn't very convenient with Temp. The fact that I was new and clueless and arguing (shamefully) against Sheev didn't help.

👆 It'll be a sad day when he checks out the way of the rest of the old guard.

Temp's pretty trash, yeah.

Guys. Get in here.

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=629698&from=thread&pagenumber=2#post15834538

An shit.

Yeah, I don't have much interest in wall-of-text debates anymore, with few exceptions. But, then, I don't really feel the need to.

Originally posted by Sinious
I don't remember why, but I was anti-rhetoric for a while back then, which obviously is a naive approach and it made our interchanges more spicy, but I only criticized you for turning "serious" discussions into banterfests.

Aha.

So you basically talk about random stuff?

You are still alive?

Originally posted by cs_zoltan
You are still alive?

hydrogen cyanide.

Too hard to acquire

Zannah's juice?

Another Soul is lost, sad really. Ellimist' was entertaining. Perhaps another will take his place, one stronger and far more powerful than he.

I wonder who 🙂

No. 👆

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Reason: Constant trolling despite mod requests to stop.
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Reason: Making spite/bait threads and off topic spam threads.

You'd really think the first two temp bans would've gotten the message across.