|King Joker|
Your Excellency
Originally posted by Selenial
Out of curiosity, which email shows a concerted effort throughout the entirety of the DNC to undermine Sanders? From what I understand, it was an effort by select politicians in the DNC who happened to favor Clinton. While yes, it's shameful they pretended to be neutral, I don't get the whole fuss over a party taking sides in their elections. The British do it brazenly, the conservative elite worked tooth and nail to make sure David Cameron, not his opponents, won the party election. The same can be said for Theresa May vs Andrea Leadsom, of course politicians take sides.
It's not like everything was majorly explicit and everyone in the DNC was against Sanders, but multiple communication officials of the committee were brainstorming ways to smear Bernie's campaign as a mess due to a server glitch. And then in regards to questioning Bernie's religious views, it involved the chief executive and chief financial officer of the committee, so these are important members of the DNC brainstorming ways to knock Bernie down a peg. In regards to Debbie Wasserman Schultz, she dismissed Bernie in an e-mail by saying he isn't going to be president, after an aid of hers (IIRC) told her about Bernie wanting Debbie to resign (this was before Hillary was the presumptive nominee, as well, IIRC). Most of these obviously point to a concerted effort by top-officials of the DNC to smear Bernie, and continue treating him unfairly. I can't really comment on British politics, but the point is, the DNC claimed they were neutral and actively attempted to trash Bernie.
Originally posted by Selenial
Trying to turn people against Bernie for being an atheist is deplorable, yes. As is maintaining a public stance of neutrality. But I don't see the DNC stuff as a reason to vote Stein any more than Bernie calling Clinton "unqualified" to be president a reason to not vote for him. Or select Sanders backers conducting a trial by media on her, on his account.
I guess some just can't bring themselves to vote for a candidate/party that tried to undermine a candidate they potentially put so much faith, money, and time into. What's worse is that Debbie Wasserman Schultz was appointed as the honorary chair of Clinton's campaign immediately after her resignation. Like, talk about a slap in the face. 😬
Originally posted by Selenial
The TPP thing is fair enough, but IMO not reason to vote Stein because a vote for Stein won't stop TPP since she'll never win.
Not all Stein supporters believe she has no chance of winning, tbh.
Originally posted by Selenial
Whether you think Clinton full of shit about money in politics, even if it's not what she believes, it's in the party platform now. She also has no reason to lie about it, since if she wins the presidency it'll never affect one of her campaigns again...
You gotta walk the walk, not just talk the talk. And Hillary ain't walking the walk. 🙂 And plus, there's Hillary's probable 2020 reelection campaign, if she wins this year.