I'm aware of checks and balances. It's the international image that I care more about. We'll never get shit done at home. Not that it matters. Checks and balances only work when Congress and the President are in disagreement. You could always count on the Supreme Court, but considering who funnels them in, that also only goes so far.
Originally posted by MS Warehouse"Donald Trump decides to use a nuclear weapon, what is the time-frame between his decision and when the nuclear weapons are launched?"
i hesitate to say all of them because of the absurdity of your question.
"It's scenario dependent, but the system is designed for speed and decisiveness. It's not designed to debate the decision." -- former Director of Central Intelligence and ex-National Security Agency Director Michael Hayden
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Originally posted by |King Joker|
The last time the U.S. officially declared war through Congressional approval was World War 2,
and even then, Congress doesn't need to green-light a preemptive nuclear attack, lol.
Originally posted by FreshestSlicehttp://reason.com/blog/2012/12/08/the-last-time-america-declared-war
What the ****? Iraq, Libya, Afghanistan, etc. Congress may not send the stamp anymore, but if they didn't approve, it wouldn't be happening.
Even still, a traditional declaration of war is different from ordering to nuke another country.
Originally posted by FreshestSliceThe natural question to ask, then, is whether he could actually do that. The answer is deceptively simple: Yes, he can. No matter what.
The president, contrary to popular belief, isn't even remotely the final say in nuclear launches.
The president has basically unconstrained authority to use nuclear weapons, a seemingly insane system that flows pretty logically from America’s strategic doctrine on nuclear weapons. The US needs a system to launch weapons fast for deterrence to work properly, which means one person needs to be able to order the use of nukes basically unencumbered. The president is the only possible choice.
http://www.vox.com/platform/amp/2016/8/3/12367996/donald-trump-nuclear-codes----- ----- ----- -----
"He could launch a kind of devastating attack the world's never seen. He doesn't have to check with anybody. He doesn't have to call the Congress. He doesn't have to check with the courts. He has that authority because of the nature of the world we live in." -- Dick Cheney, 2008
Nice dodge. Congress has approved of every war you've been alive for, but hey, that doesn't mean Congress needs to.
The president has basically unconstrained authority to use nuclear weapons, a seemingly insane system that flows pretty logically from America’s strategic doctrine on nuclear weapons. The US needs a system to launch weapons fast for deterrence to work properly, which means one person needs to be able to order the use of nukes basically unencumbered. The president is the only possible choice."He could launch a kind of devastating attack the world's never seen. He doesn't have to check with anybody. He doesn't have to call the Congress. He doesn't have to check with the courts. He has that authority because of the nature of the world we live in." -- Dick Cheney, 2008
Originally posted by |King Joker|
"Donald Trump decides to use a nuclear weapon, what is the time-frame between his decision and when the nuclear weapons are launched?""It's scenario dependent, but the system is designed for [b]speed and decisiveness
. It's not designed to debate the decision." -- former Director of Central Intelligence and ex-National Security Agency Director Michael Hayden👆 🙂 [/B]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuclear_football
Research is fundamental 👆
Originally posted by FreshestSliceThe point is irrelevant when discussing Trump's abilities to launch nukes, so I don't care, really.
Nice dodge. Congress has approved of every war you've been alive for, but hey, that doesn't mean Congress needs to.
Originally posted by FreshestSliceApproval from the Secretary of Defense, but: he or she doesn’t have veto power. If the president orders a nuclear launch, the secretary is legally obligated to do it. He or she could theoretically choose to resign rather than carry out the order, but then it would fall to the secretary’s second-in-command to order the strike.
Your source claims the President needs approval for the launch to actually happen. While technically can't stop the launch, no one is going to end the world for Donald Trump. But I guess you'd have to actually read it.
"It's up to the president," Kingston Reif, the director for disarmament and threat reduction policy at the Arms Control Association, tells me. "The advisers that make up the national command authority are obliged to obey and execute the order."
Donald Trump, if he wanted, can launch a nuke at the Middle East with no one able to stop him, and he can do it pretty damn easily. That encapsulates the entire point of this discussion, and you have no argument in claiming there's sufficient "checks and balances" to stop him from launching a preemptive nuclear attack at a Middle Eastern country (or wherever).
That encapsulates the entire point of this discussion, and you have no argument in claiming there's sufficient "checks and balances" to stop him from launching a preemptive nuclear attack at a Middle Eastern country (or wherever).
Before the order can be processed by the military, the president must be positively identified using a special code issued on a plastic card, nicknamed the "biscuit".[4] The United States has a two-man rule in place, and while only the president can order the release of nuclear weapons, the order must be confirmed by the Secretary of Defense (there is a hierarchy of succession in the event that the president is killed in an attack).[4] Once all the codes have been verified, the military would issue attack orders to the proper units. These orders are given and then re-verified for authenticity. It is argued that the President has almost single authority to initiate an nuclear attack since the Secretary of Defense is required to verify the order, but cannot legally veto itEmphasis mine.
Originally posted by MS WarehouseMakes sense that you do all your research through Wikipedia. 👆
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuclear_footballResearch is fundamental 👆
Originally posted by MS WarehouseA pretty shit "checks and balance", since the Secretary of Defense can't actually do anything to stop the president. 😬
The fact that the Secretary of Defense has to approve already indicates a system of "checks and balances". That's why no one man has the key to the kingdom.. Not on a nuclear sub, nor in any scenario where nuclear weapons are involved.Emphasis mine.
Originally posted by |King Joker|
Makes sense that you do all your research through Wikipedia. 👆
Ah yes, coming from the guy who quoted vox.com 😂
I quoted wikipedia because it seems like you have no earthly idea what you're talking about when it comes to US policy.
A pretty shit "checks and balance", since the Secretary of Defense can't actually do anything to stop the president.