Originally posted by Ziggystardust
Well you certainly haven't been packing my fudge today, what you have been doing is the usual Galen Marek wanking.
I packed your fudge well and good mein freund. 🙂 You weren't even able to respond despite the only time you ever gained my respect being when you called out someone for being dismissive and not addressing the argument and thus pointing out that they had auto conceded.
But your post didn't even get to the point, it seemed to address things that weren't even mentioned in the argument. For example, the quote regarding Galen's imperfect lightsaber stylee, the rebuttal wasn't even close to the point in question, and went on a tangent regarding Mace and Obi Wan with their respective styles.
You were attempting to say the quote was referring to Galen having nearly mastered one of the forms when I pointed out that perfecting lightsaber combat as a whole would mean that Galen had learned nearly all he could in all forms and styles rather then almost mastering only a single form. I attempted to show this in the Obi Wan Mace example because when Obi Wan was sheepish about being called A master Mace says he's THE master implying that perfection of a form ( not even lightsaber combat in general ) exceeds simple mastery.
Originally posted by UCanShootMyNova
[B]You were attempting to say the quote was referring to Galen having nearly mastered one of the forms
I didn't even mention the forms, and no, lightsaber combat is not necessarily synonymous with all the forms in their entirety, it can simply mean one or two styles paired together to make a combatant what they are. I'm not even sure if Galen is versed in all the styles of fighting to begin with, even though Juyo requires many.
when I pointed out that perfecting lightsaber combat as a whole would mean that Galen had learned nearly all he could in all forms and styles rather then almost mastering only a single form.
Well first of all, the almost part of that statement meant he didn't perfect lightsaber combat, and I'm conflating the term 'perfection' with mastery in this case, which would make the accolade itself less impressive than praise shone in the general direction of people like Adi Gaila, who has been noted to have mastered the lightsaber. As an accolade it is uninspiring.
I attempted to show this in the Obi Wan Mace example because when Obi Wan was sheepish about being called A master Mace says he's THE master implying that perfection of a form ( not even lightsaber combat in general ) exceeds simple mastery.
Perfection of Soresu is the kind of thing I'd expect from Coleman Trebor. Obi Wan on the other hand, has taken the philosophy of Soresu to an unprecedented level, marking himself the reigning champion of the form, the same goes for Mace with Vaapad. Perfection is simply the ability to execute sequences with great accuracy, what Obi Wan does is something more than that. And please don't tell me you think Galen is anywhere near Kenobi as a master of Soresu when the proxy-droid emulation of Obi Wan could put him on hiss ass.
He is. We know because I've looked at all the opponents he's faced as modules or actual fights and cumulatively he's encountered all 7 forms.
I'm not playing this game. It says "perfected" and "lightsaber combat" there's nothing to get confused over here.
The module manages to do no such thing in the novel which as you already know I favor when contradictions occur.
I'm not going to be responding to this subject here since this is a social thread and we are already doing this in another thread. Address it there.
Originally posted by NewGuy01
You say that, but from what I can tell Fated's been faring much better than you with regards to butthurt management lately. mmm
Thanks. 😄
Originally posted by UCanShootMyNova
I vent via big events. It's healthier then letting it slowly seep out at random intervals.
Are you attempting to "roast" me? Really?
Originally posted by UCanShootMyNova
He is. We know because I've looked at all the opponents he's faced as modules or actual fights and cumulatively he's encountered all 7 forms.
Encountering all 7 forms is not quite the same as learning every Kata or mastering all the sequences of those styles. What you have yet to understand is that the forms by themselves aren't just sets of movements enacted by dancing, they also represent seperate philosophies. Facing modules mimicking renowned fighters isn't sufficient enough to emerse him in doctrines that require an understanding outside of swinging a blade, in any case, the average Jedi training in a temple would be practicing with, or sparring against potentially hundreds of Jedi, meaning they themselves are encountering different styles of combat regularly. Galen isn't unique by sparring with different opponents who can't truly match the battlers in their flesh.
I'm not playing this game. It says "perfected" and "lightsaber combat" there's nothing to get confused over here.
Well... no, it's says "almost perfected" and yes lightsaber combat the concerning affair, but some how you've taken this accolade beyond its natural limits to express how Galen is almost as masterful a Soresu practitioner as Kenobi, only shy from Dooku's From 2 proficiency, comparable to Anakin in the style of Djem So and approaching Mace Windu's defness with Vaapad. I'm sorry to tell you, but for Galen, this clearly isn't the case. If it was, he wouldn't be getting tanked and spanked by a random imperial Shadow Guard. It's clear that the word perfection is only being used to produce a relative conviction in the same way mastery is often used to describe lightsaber wielders, in which case, the accolade puts him directly below people like Adi Gaila. I'd also like to know why Galen's lightsaber technique is considered imperfect, because it would explain why the people who can challenge him, have done so with nearing levels of success.
The module manages to do no such thing in the novel which as you already know I favor when contradictions occur.
He tanked and spanked him pretty handily in the comic. Galen, once again, having to revert to his Force abilties. Another L?
I'm not going to be responding to this subject here since this is a social thread and we are already doing this in another thread. Address it there.
Sorry, but sometimes it is easier to reiterate a debate when subjects are broken down into parts. You're inability to quote people after three years on this site doesn't exactly help matters either. Anyway, I see no reason why we can't continue the debate here now that the matter isn't so foggy, this is after all, a Star Wars forum.