1. They are always on the news. I feel like I have to pay attention to them to be a good citizen. and then they LIE to me with lying lies.
2. They take a good 20 percent out of each and every one of my paychecks.
3. And I guess it isn't a personal thing, but it IS one my pet peeves, so I will post it here: They do this nation building thing, where they spend billions of dollars on people who hate us, and it is BORROWED money. If, for the nation defense, it is absolutely necessary that they blow some fools up, BLOW THEM UP! but don't sit there and waste everyone's money on rebuilding those countries.
I have heard some pretty lousy, LOUSY things about Clinton, and Reagan was pretty much responsible for bringing the cold war to a successful end.
Big Reagan fan. He didn't spend time rebuilding countries that we hit. We hit them, did what had to be done, and moved on.
Look at it this way: If we rebuild the country, they hate us, and we spend billions of dollars.
If we don't rebuild the country, they hate us, and it doesn't cost us anything.
Originally posted by Red Nemesis
See, from what I've heard, Clinton was pretty great. And the two things I know about Bush Sr. make him sound darn competent as well.Regan... 😬
Yea Clinton was great, except when he inadvertedly started the financial crisis when he removed the CAP from bank loans, and they went ape shit.
Originally posted by truejedi
I have heard some pretty lousy, LOUSY things about Clinton, and Reagan was pretty much responsible for bringing the cold war to a successful end.Big Reagan fan. He didn't spend time rebuilding countries that we hit. We hit them, did what had to be done, and moved on.
Look at it this way: If we rebuild the country, they hate us, and we spend billions of dollars.
If we don't rebuild the country, they hate us, and it doesn't cost us anything.
Yup.. Lol.. And I'm confident the Health Care bill will be repealed.
Originally posted by truejedi
1. They are always on the news. I feel like I have to pay attention to them to be a good citizen. and then they LIE to me with lying lies.
2. They take a good 20 percent out of each and every one of my paychecks.
3. And I guess it isn't a personal thing, but it IS one my pet peeves, so I will post it here: They do this nation building thing, where they spend billions of dollars on people who hate us, and it is BORROWED money. If, for the nation defense, it is absolutely necessary that they blow some fools up, BLOW THEM UP! but don't sit there and waste everyone's money on rebuilding those countries.[/B]
Originally posted by truejedi
[B]Also, as of 2014, I am going to be required to carry Health Care that I don't want or need.
Originally posted by truejedi
I have heard some pretty lousy, LOUSY things about Clinton
, and Reagan was pretty much responsible for bringing the cold war to a successful end.
Big Reagan fan. He didn't spend time rebuilding countries that we hit. We hit them, did what had to be done, and moved on.
Look at it this way: If we rebuild the country, they hate us, and we spend billions of dollars.
If we don't rebuild the country, they hate us, and it doesn't cost us anything.
We wouldn't want to waste our time freeing people from the cycles of poverty and ignorance that have held sway for centuries. Much better to level their shacks and move on.
Originally posted by Dr McBeefington
Yea Clinton was great, except when he inadvertedly started the financial crisis when he removed the CAP from bank loans, and they went ape shit.
For all the Teapartiers (and you, just in case the sets are distinct) like to talk about balancing the budget, it is funny that you like Regan so much. He really kicked off the whole debt shidig by amping up military spending and cutting taxes. You can't cut taxes and raise spending and not expect to lose money.
His military spending was necessary as it was during the apex of the cold war. Also, it's ironic that the Republicans were all for protectionism/isolationism in the 30s, and the Democrats became its proponents from Vietnam until today.
Originally posted by Ms.Marvel
you messed up a tag there
...i mean, i messed it up on purpose to show just how emphatic it was supposed to be?
Originally posted by Dr McBeefington
His military spending was necessary as it was during the apex of the cold war. Also, it's ironic that the Republicans were all for protectionism/isolationism in the 30s, and the Democrats became its proponents from Vietnam until today.
Originally posted by Red Nemesis
Could you be more specific?
About what? The lies, or my feeling like I must pay attention?
Taxes are the price we pay for society. If you don't want police, firemen, or libraries then go live in the forest and leave my books alone.
Yay basic military doctrine! I can't advocate any--no, let me emphasize that: ANY military action that isn't direct self defense. If Germany invades, hit 'em. It'd take a pretty big something to get me to attack before that.
So you are saying no retributive strikes? Our current war in Afghanistan was in retribution for 9/11. The one in Iraq is pre-emptive. Big difference. I agree with the former, and scoff at the latter.
could you be more specific?
well, perjury is bad. : ) But to be honest, his morals weren't my problem with him, thought it was something of a national embarassment. It was all the spending. He also tried to force Health Care through, if I remember correctly.
For all the Teapartiers (and you, just in case the sets are distinct) like to talk about balancing the budget, it is funny that you like Regan so much. He really kicked off the whole debt shidig by amping up military spending and cutting taxes. You can't cut taxes and raise spending and not expect to lose money.
But the economy absolutely took off, since he gave the tax-cuts to the people. He increased the GDP, and therefore the government intake with his tax-cuts (unlike W) The military spending at this time was absolutely necessary in the face of a Soviet Union that already held Eastern Europe in check. We weren't the only ones building up our military. To have cut military spending would have been folly.
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We wouldn't want to waste our time freeing people from the cycles of poverty and ignorance that have held sway for centuries. Much better to level their shacks and move on.
When every penny we spend is put on the Socialist China's credit account, YES. Maybe if they don't have shacks, they might stop building bombs long enough to build another stupid shack.
The point is red, even if we DO rebuild their culture, they STILL hate us,and we have just made a richer, more powerful people HATE us. What is the point? We have made no friends in Afghanistan, for all the money we have spent. They still hate us,and they are hiding the very men who BLOW UP the things we build them. Its a waste. A tragic waste, yes, but definitly a waste.
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Pretty sure that Clinton wasn't the only deregulator. Luckily, you haven't endorsed Bush Jr. that I can remember. So you're off the hook.
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