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Started by RE: Blaxican3,287 pages

Didn't we already have troops in Afghanistan? Obama's just upping the ante. I think what dude's referring to is that as long as Obama's president, we won't be sending nukes or troops into Iran.

Originally posted by RE: Blaxican
Didn't we already have troops in Afghanistan? Obama's just upping the ante. I think what dude's referring to is that as long as Obama's president, we won't be sending nukes or troops into Iran.
Exactly, that's what dude's referring to.

Obama will never invade a country unless they themselves have declared/launched all-out war. As it is, there's no country that could compete with the U.S. conventionally and also have something to gain by war with it. Should Iran do something, it'll be driven by fanaticism, not the desire for economic gain. They would attack Israel, and Israel would wipe the floor with them before the U.S. arrives. Or, they would nuke Israel, which would perpetuate a nuclear ass-kicking from the West and possibly China/Russia.

Whatever Iran does, they'll spell their own destruction. Ahmadinejad and his ilk aren't crafty enough, and don't possess the longevity to take on the global community and come out better for it.

As for Obama, he'll take flak for either being "too soft" on Iran, or (and this is unlikely), being "too zealous" in assuring American imperial interests. He'll be politically boned either way, unless Iran kamikazes.

The problem is, Israel wouldn't go on the defensive. They would never allow a first strike by Iran. They'll destroy Iran if and when Iran gets full nuclear capabilities and Obama would have no choice but to support it, otherwise it's political suicide.

Originally posted by Lord Lucien
Exactly, that's what dude's referring to.

Obama will never invade a country unless they themselves have declared/launched all-out war. As it is, there's no country that could compete with the U.S. conventionally and also have something to gain by war with it. Should Iran do something, it'll be driven by fanaticism, not the desire for economic gain. They would attack Israel, and Israel would wipe the floor with them before the U.S. arrives. Or, they would nuke Israel, which would perpetuate a nuclear ass-kicking from the West and possibly China/Russia.

Whatever Iran does, they'll spell their own destruction. Ahmadinejad and his ilk aren't crafty enough, and don't possess the longevity to take on the global community and come out better for it.

As for Obama, he'll take flak for either being "too soft" on Iran, or (and this is unlikely), being "too zealous" in assuring American imperial interests. He'll be politically boned either way, unless Iran kamikazes.

I think N. Korea might push just a little too much.

Originally posted by Dr McBeefington
The problem is, Israel wouldn't go on the defensive. They would never allow a first strike by Iran. They'll destroy Iran if and when Iran gets full nuclear capabilities and Obama would have no choice but to support it, otherwise it's political suicide.

This is it exactly. Israel absolutely will not let Iran have nukes. The very next thing that would happen in Israel would be a suicide bomber smuggling one in a suitcase, and Israel doesn't have enough land-mass to let that happen.

Originally posted by truejedi
This is it exactly. Israel absolutely will not let Iran have nukes. The very next thing that would happen in Israel would be a suicide bomber smuggling one in a suitcase, and Israel doesn't have enough land-mass to let that happen.

http://www.mfa.gov.il/MFA/Terrorism-+Obstacle+to+Peace/Palestinian+terror+since+2000/Suicide+and+Other+Bombing+Attacks+in+Israel+Since.htm

Israel is pretty damn efficient in containing suicide bombings. You should see their airport, we could learn a thing or two.

http://www.foxnews.com/world/2010/09/09/castro-admits-cubas-communism-doesnt-work/?test=latestnews

Castro has lost his mind.

Originally posted by Dr McBeefington
http://www.foxnews.com/world/2010/09/09/castro-admits-cubas-communism-doesnt-work/?test=latestnews

Castro has lost his mind.

With good reason; he's old as ****.

My problem isn't really with what he's saying, because he's right, communism sucks, and Cuba kind of sucks. What I'm curious about is if he's being genuine.

Yeah, that's just weird hearing from Castro himself.

Damn, haven't seen you in here for... years. What's up, man?

what's annoying is the way he says it AFTER he steps down from power, when he can do nothing to change it. Crying over spilt milk.

Well, to be fair, he stepped down because he almost died.

http://www.latimes.com/news/local/l...0,3185943.story

http://liveshots.blogs.foxnews.com/2010/09/10/old-friend-challenges-bin-laden/?test=latestnews

Finally, another Muslim says what we've all been thinking.

Wow. That took some cojones.

Originally posted by Lord Lucien
Wow. That took some cojones.

I wonder what response the Muslim world will offer. I'm thinking the extremists will just dismiss this guy's words and move on as if nothing happened.

So do I. You don't get to be as fanatical as they are if mere words are gonna sway... you...

Huh.

Obama said "we aren't at war with Islam." It sure as hell seems to be at war with us though...

Originally posted by truejedi
Obama said "we aren't at war with Islam." It sure as hell seems to be at war with us though...

Obama hasn't been known to live in reality. We're at war with radical Islam.

Originally posted by Dr McBeefington
[b]radical Islam. [/B]

Bingo. We're not at war with Islam. For Christ's ****ing sake, we're not. There's a billion Muslims. We are not under assault from a billion Muslims.