Originally posted by He-guy88
not true he could doge heat vision cold breath the only thing he would have a hard time dodgeing is superspeed attacts more then likely he would just take control of him from the start u cant say he could not do that to sups cause crucifer has done it and like iv said maniy times before dracula is much stronger
Hmm, Superman's heat vision is wide enough to cover the ENTIRE PLANET and you're saying Dracula would dodge it? Superman has blasted Captain Marvel, Captain Atom, as well as Wonder Woman with it. They are all MUCH faster than Dracula. What's the greatest speed feat that Dracula has? Dracula could not possibly dodge Supes heat vision especially considering he has done all that as well as taking down an entire army of Doomsday clones with it. Dracula doesn't stand a chance in hell. One good blast from Supes heat vision would kill Dracula because of the yellow sun radiation. One kill is good enough for a victory here. Superman's ice breath has also been able to freeze entire oceans before and he's also frozen Green Lantern as well as Wonder Woman. The fact that you are saying he could dodge these attacks is simply put; laughable. 😆 Again you say he could mind control him, but he could only do that if he were to bite Superman on the neck which Superman would obviously not allow. He's super senses would make it impossible for Dracula to get in close.
Superman could also just rush in close to the speed of light and punch his f*ckin head off! There are just too many scenarios for Superman to win. The only chance I see Dracula having would be for Superman to just black out because of confusion as to how he would kill Dracula. 😂 Superman wins 1000000/10.
Originally posted by batdude123
Hmm, Superman's heat vision is wide enough to cover the ENTIRE PLANET and you're saying Dracula would dodge it? Superman has blasted Captain Marvel, Captain Atom, as well as Wonder Woman with it. They are all MUCH faster than Dracula. What's the greatest speed feat that Dracula has? Dracula could not possibly dodge Supes heat vision especially considering he has done all that as well as taking down an entire army of Doomsday clones with it. Dracula doesn't stand a chance in hell. One good blast from Supes heat vision would kill Dracula because of the yellow sun radiation. One kill is good enough for a victory here. Superman's ice breath has also been able to freeze entire oceans before and he's also frozen Green Lantern as well as Wonder Woman. The fact that you are saying he could dodge these attacks are simply put; laughable. 😆 Again you say he could mind control him, but he could only do that if he were to bite Superman on the neck which Superman would obviously not allow. He's super senses would make it impossible for Dracula to get in close.Superman could also just rush in close to the speed of light and punch his f*ckin head off! There are just too many scenarios for Superman to win. The only chance I see Dracula having would be for Superman to just black out because of confusion as to how he would kill Dracula. 😂 Superman wins 1000000/10.
im going to agree to dissagree here because sups lost to a vampire that is weaker than dracula plain and simpale so u r saying that sups beats dracula but loeses to crucifer just make'in sure u know wat ur say'in that makes no since and seems to be pis
Originally posted by He-guy88
im going to agree to dissagree here because sups lost to a vampire that is weaker than dracula plain and simpale so u r saying that sups beats dracula but loeses to crucifer just make'in sure u know wat ur say'in that makes no since and seems to be pis
That's right considering he has resisted the affects of Mesmero, Martian Manhunter (Who by the way, patrols the minds of every individual on the planet), White Martians, and Aquaman before. Dracula could never bite him so therefore, could never control him. Anyways, yes, the Crucifer incident was PIS to the bone. Why is that so hard to understand? You have yet to give me a plausible arguement other than a PIS event that happened. Why argue a pointless arguement? Superman wins this 1000000000/10! END OF STORY!
dc drac and marvel drac are different. dracula in marvel has given completely f'd with ss by muddling with his mind (and NO one tampers with ss's mind), he's been shown to be the equal of thor in terms of weather control, he's nearly overwhelmed strange astrally (and has met and battled strange many times), caught colossus's fist and easily taken out the xmen. he's also wiped out sif. hell, in tomb of dracula, he even hypnotized dr strange!!
now supes speed is difficult to overcome in this fight, however, if he could turn to mist supes would have trouble hitting him and would give drac a chance to attack him mentally or astrally, giving drac a definite chance in this. supes best bet is a speedblitz (drac DOES have superspeed and reflexes, but it's hard to imagine he could answer a full-out speedblitz) before drac can shift forms to buy himself enough time to muddle with supes mind then bite him. i'm not sure if marvel's drac bit that the result would be the same as when the dc drac did. impossible to say. if it did have the same affect, drac would be screwed. if he could bite supes effectively, supes would be in a load of trouble. could you imagine supes as a vamp . . .??!
Originally posted by batdude123
That's right considering he has resisted the affects of Mesmero, Martian Manhunter (Who by the way, patrols the minds of every individual on the planet), White Martians, and Aquaman before. Dracula could never bite him so therefore, could never control him. Anyways, yes, the Crucifer incident was PIS to the bone. Why is that so hard to understand? You have yet to give me a plausible arguement other than a PIS event that happened. Why argue a pointless arguement? Superman wins this 1000000000/10! END OF STORY!
yes i understand thats sups can not be controled easly but it was done pis or not thats the facts my self id say it was pis myself but i try not to use that this tread is the only one iv ever use'ed it in cause i belive that its fair game pis or not cause it happened and id vote superman if it was not for dracula never stays dead he always comes back no matter wat
Originally posted by He-guy88
yes i understand thats sups can not be controled easly but it was done pis or not thats the facts my self id say it was pis myself but i try not to use that this tread is the only one iv ever use'ed it in cause i belive that its fair game pis or not cause it happened and id vote superman if it was not for dracula never stays dead he always comes back no matter wat
Like I said, a death one time is good enough for a victory. Hell, even a KO is enough to be considered a victory. But if I can't convince you of this, then I guess we are just gonna have to agree to disagree. 😄
Originally posted by leonidas
dc drac and marvel drac are different. dracula in marvel has given completely f'd with ss by muddling with his mind (and NO one tampers with ss's mind), he's been shown to be the equal of thor in terms of weather control, he's nearly overwhelmed strange astrally (and has met and battled strange many times), caught colossus's fist and easily taken out the xmen. he's also wiped out sif. hell, in tomb of dracula, he even hypnotized dr strange!!now supes speed is difficult to overcome in this fight, however, if he could turn to mist supes would have trouble hitting him and would give drac a chance to attack him mentally or astrally, giving drac a definite chance in this. supes best bet is a speedblitz (drac DOES have superspeed and reflexes, but it's hard to imagine he could answer a full-out speedblitz) before drac can shift forms to buy himself enough time to muddle with supes mind then bite him. i'm not sure if marvel's drac bit that the result would be the same as when the dc drac did. impossible to say. if it did have the same affect, drac would be screwed. if he could bite supes effectively, supes would be in a load of trouble. could you imagine supes as a vamp . . .??!
sups would be screwed if he was a vamp cause he draws powers from the sun and vampires die in the sun
Originally posted by leonidas
dc drac and marvel drac are different. dracula in marvel has given completely f'd with ss by muddling with his mind (and NO one tampers with ss's mind), he's been shown to be the equal of thor in terms of weather control, he's nearly overwhelmed strange astrally (and has met and battled strange many times), caught colossus's fist and easily taken out the xmen. he's also wiped out sif. hell, in tomb of dracula, he even hypnotized dr strange!!now supes speed is difficult to overcome in this fight, however, if he could turn to mist supes would have trouble hitting him and would give drac a chance to attack him mentally or astrally, giving drac a definite chance in this. supes best bet is a speedblitz (drac DOES have superspeed and reflexes, but it's hard to imagine he could answer a full-out speedblitz) before drac can shift forms to buy himself enough time to muddle with supes mind then bite him. i'm not sure if marvel's drac bit that the result would be the same as when the dc drac did. impossible to say. if it did have the same affect, drac would be screwed. if he could bite supes effectively, supes would be in a load of trouble. could you imagine supes as a vamp . . .??!
While he was f'ing with SS's mind, was he going at full speed? He was probably standing still and anyway, Supes going at full speed is WAY beyond the realm of thought, so mind-controlling is out. Supes can also think way faster than most people, in fact he's on par with Flash in terms of thinking speed. Like you said a speed-blitz would be extremely effective and would probably result in him pulling off the victories. However, he could just dance circles around him going extremely fast (way faster than the speed of thought) and continually dowse him with his yellow sun radiation laser vision. The sun is obviously fatal to all vampires; Dracula is no exception. Along with Supes ability to vibrate intangilbe as well as invisible, this is a pretty one-sided fight. I still say Superman wins 10/10.
Originally posted by batdude123
While he was f'ing with SS's mind, was he going at full speed? He was probably standing still and anyway, Supes going at full speed is WAY beyond the realm of thought, so mind-controlling is out. Supes can also think way faster than most people, in fact he's on par with Flash in terms of thinking speed. Like you said a speed-blitz would be extremely effective and would probably result in him pulling off the victories. However, he could just dance circles around him going extremely fast (way faster than the speed of thought) and continually dowse him with his yellow sun radiation laser vision. The sun is obviously fatal to all vampires; Dracula is no exception. Along with Supes ability to vibrate intangilbe as well as invisible, this is a pretty one-sided fight. I still say Superman wins 10/10.
re: ss. does anyone ever use full out, ftl speedblitzes in comics? very nearly never. they are viable in the forum and that's about it. and yellow sun radiation? 😕
in this forum, it would be tough for drac to win because of speedblitz, like it would be almost impossible for even dr strange to get a win. in a comicbook, or if we throw out the speedblitz, things would be wayyyy different. if supes was close enough it wouldn't matter how fast he moved. it's not like he is outracing thought. it's easy enough to say tp is just an exotic energy form that would move at or near c. find an instance somewhere of someone outrunning a tp attack . . . in any event, all supes has to do is get close enough for him to hear drac's voice and he could be hypnotized. even if supes can shake it off, it would take a moment. intangible wouldn't save him from tp. if drac can get his mind on supes he could certainly win.
Originally posted by leonidas
re: ss. does anyone ever use full out, ftl speedblitzes in comics? very nearly never. they are viable in the forum and that's about it. and yellow sun radiation? 😕in this forum, it would be tough for drac to win because of speedblitz, like it would be almost impossible for even dr strange to get a win. in a comicbook, or if we throw out the speedblitz, things would be wayyyy different. if supes was close enough it wouldn't matter how fast he moved. it's not like he is outracing thought. it's easy enough to say tp is just an exotic energy form that would move at or near c. find an instance somewhere of someone outrunning a tp attack . . . in any event, all supes has to do is get close enough for him to hear drac's voice and he could be hypnotized. even if supes can shake it off, it would take a moment. intangible wouldn't save him from tp. if drac can get his mind on supes he could certainly win.
some one finaly agrees wit me on this
Originally posted by leonidas
re: ss. does anyone ever use full out, ftl speedblitzes in comics? very nearly never. they are viable in the forum and that's about it. and yellow sun radiation? 😕in this forum, it would be tough for drac to win because of speedblitz, like it would be almost impossible for even dr strange to get a win. in a comicbook, or if we throw out the speedblitz, things would be wayyyy different. if supes was close enough it wouldn't matter how fast he moved. it's not like he is outracing thought. it's easy enough to say tp is just an exotic energy form that would move at or near c. find an instance somewhere of someone outrunning a tp attack . . . in any event, all supes has to do is get close enough for him to hear drac's voice and he could be hypnotized. even if supes can shake it off, it would take a moment. intangible wouldn't save him from tp. if drac can get his mind on supes he could certainly win.
Yeah, Supes heat vision is a result of all the build up of the yellow sun radiation that he builds up from absorbing from the sun. Dracula is completely vulnerable to the sun. Anyways, when the fight starts, Superman could just fly in faster than Dracula can even think to start making a TP attack and get himself punched with a speed of light fast punch capable of destroying planets. Speedblitz along with other attacks puts Superman over the edge in this fight. Anyways, I agree that maybe if Superman gave him the time to mind-control him, then maybe he might lose; but the opponent gets basic knowledge of one another, so Superman wouldn't give him a chance to make a TP attack especially on something going that fast. Sure, Dracula would mentally attack him if Superman goes in their looking for a h2h fight, but if he uses his attacks wisely, then Dracula loses 10/10.
his cells convert sunlight. it would be converted and altered prior to its release so it would not be sunlight that he is shooting and it is only sunlight that harms drac. supes also does not attack at c on earth but he would still likely be fast enough to hit and keep hitting drac before drac could formulate a thought. part would depend on how far about they start. drac's change to mist is almost instantaneous.