From what you guys have said it would seem that Spawn would be mor in line with beings like Odin or Zeus. Powerful in their own realms almost omnipotent but outside of it while still insanely powerful are weaker than normal that is the way you mad it sound.
Darksied's OE comes from the source and can erase or teleport things not essentail to the universe. Let me define essential to you it somethign that when gone the universe itself could not function properly of which Spwan is not.
Or arguement that the demonic destroying weapons seems useless because just becuase something is designed to do something doesn't mean it always works to perfection.
Just to elt you know that DS was tearing thorugh Panthoens of Gods when he was coming full tilt.
Originally posted by newjak86It depends on how you see it. It either one of two possibilies and its really up to perception
I hear though that the pantoen's in image were alot weaker then their counterparts in DC or Marvel.
A. The pantheons were a weaker lot
B. The demon that killed that was just to great in power.
Its all on perception.
From what you guys have said it would seem that Spawn would be mor in line with beings like Odin or Zeus. Powerful in their own realms almost omnipotent but outside of it while still insanely powerful are weaker than normal that is the way you mad it sound.
Maybe......but see Asgard or Olympus from Marvel do not compare to the realm that is Hell in Image. Same way DArkseid's Apokolips does not compare to the collection of dimensions that make up Image's Hell.
Spawn is very powerful in Hell, and also very powerful on Earth. He has been depowered for different reasons. In the "Dead Zone" where Heaven has influence, he is totally powerless, like a normal human being.
Darksied's OE comes from the source and can erase or teleport things not essentail to the universe. Let me define essential to you it somethign that when gone the universe itself could not function properly of which Spwan is not.
If it didn't zap Galactus or wouldn't work on Thanos, it wouldn't be a final solution against Spawn.
In Image there are no "essentials" to the Universe, the Universe's order is threatened all the time by interference from Heaven and Hell. The only "essential force" to the universe you can say is Greenworld. Spawn has greenworld's gift, and therefore he is an "essential" not only to his universe, but to the war in Armaggedon as well.
You see, he may not be an "essential" to his Universe's physical order, but he is an essential to its destiny, and therefore if OE does not destroy essentials, Spawn would qualify.
Or arguement that the demonic destroying weapons seems useless because just becuase something is designed to do something doesn't mean it always works to perfection.
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Did you read the issue where Spawn held Angela's lance (issue 89 I beleive) to Mammon's throat, and Mammon was scared shitless?
Those weapons are specifically designed for slaying AND deleting demons from existance. Mammon who is a might fallen angel, almost equal in power to Lucifer, was terrified of Angela's lance.
Spawn was able to hold the lance perfectly fine. Even Redeemer's sword had no effect on Spawn.
These weapons are flawless. Malebolgia, ruler of the 8th level of Hell, was slaughtered by Angela when she used her lance, for whatever reason she did not use the deletion feature (most likely because she was in Hell when she was fighting him, where she is not even supposed to HAVE any power anyway)...she cut his stomach open, slit open his throat, and then she left to help Spawn. She didn't make sure he was dead, so with his last ounce of strength Malebolgia killed her, but his lack of any more life allowed Spawn to cut his head off with ease.
Sorry bro...the argument is VERY VALID as you can see. If Angela's lance can't delete Spawn, neither can the Omega Effect.
Just to elt you know that DS was tearing thorugh Panthoens of Gods when he was coming full tilt.
So ?
Curse of the Spawn's Reanius did the same crap ! He ATE Zeus who was the ruler of this entire alternate universe. Try that for being more powerful than Marvel or DC's gods. HE also ate Hades and everyone else.
Spawn is composed of every HellSpawn that ever existed. The "Legion" is the sumation of every other hellspawn that was ever created, most likely Reanius as well, and Spawn is thier one conduit.
The Omega Effect will most likely backfire attacking Spawn.
Spawn was even able to defeat URIZEN (even though Urizen was severely depowered) who cannot die, and would make easy work of Darksied. spawn defeated him the greenworld's gift: control over the Earth and its elements, which he used to contain Urizen in an Earth-bounded prison, disallowing him access to more souls to devour.
The only Godlike being that Spawn has failed to defeat was Kali (most recent issues)...but because it was claimed that she is undefeatable,she is the essential driving force of the cycle of life and death, and she is possibly equivalent to Image's God.
only reason i say the OE might not work on spawn is cause when he was fully confident not even heavenly weapons worked on him, as second age spawn he might have been essential i mean even though he didnt take the crown of king of hell he still was king of hell anyway wasnt he? As king of hell arent you essential to the workings of the afterlife and keeping things all orderly? I mean even though he didnt wanna be the king he had to have all the kings powers in a way i think that thats because since malbolgia was dead his powers had to go into someone elses cause of his essentialness to the universe.
Originally posted by Mider
only reason i say the OE might not work on spawn is cause when he was fully confident not even heavenly weapons worked on him, as second age spawn he might have been essential i mean even though he didnt take the crown of king of hell he still was king of hell anyway wasnt he? As king of hell arent you essential to the workings of the afterlife and keeping things all orderly? I mean even though he didnt wanna be the king he had to have all the kings powers in a way i think that thats because since malbolgia was dead his powers had to go into someone elses cause of his essentialness to the universe.
You have a very good point Mider, but I think you may be slightly wrong.
Heaven and Hell aren't essential to Spawn's Universe. Heaven and Hell are actually like "intruders" into the Universe. The Universe belongs to the force which is Greenworld, and Heaven and Hell's interference is causing unnecessary drama for the universe itself.
It's not like DC where every character has thier cosmic role, in Image Heaven and Hell will have a final war, and one side is going to win while the other loses entirely.
If Spawn was the king of 8th level of Hell, then yes he'd be an essential to HELL...but not an essential to the Universe, or to Heaven for that matter.
What makes Spawn an "essential" being, if one even exists in his Universe are these two things:
1) His connection to Greenworld, since he is neither for Heaven or Hell, he plays a more voluntarily neutral role, Greenworld gave Spawn the gift to defeat Urizen, and consider Spawn extremely important to the well being of the Universe.
2) His role in Armaggedon - Even the Man of Miracles needs Spawn's help. Spawn is going to play a huge role in the final war between Heaven and Hell, although what that role is is still uncertain. Now, Man of Miracles DID say that Spawn's role is more of playing a "distraction" while the real battle against Heaven and Hell happens unnoticed, but Spawn is still essential to the outcome of this war.
Consider the fact that KALI refused to kill Spawn, after she discovered that he is needed to stop Armaggedon.