Originally posted by Jonathan Mark
Are you forgetting Kreia's quote?"They will die a death that will last millennia, until all that remains is their code, their history, and, in the end, the shell of their armor upon the shell of a man, all too easily slain by Jedi."
I would say Canderious is a better Mandalorian...
Not another quote from...*gasp* Kreia!?!
Are they fighting unarmed? No? I didn't think so. Defeating a Jedi unarmed doesn't mean that Jango is good with weapons. Gosh, a five year old could figure that out.
That's not what I meant at all. If hundreds of Mandalorians are focus firing at Jedi, they are going to die. Canderous gets the kill. Big whoop, says little about his power considering he only got the last hit in.
If it did say something about his power; random battle droid on Geonosis pwns because it got the last hit on a Jedi.
If he fought them in a 1v1 situation and came out alive (weapons or not), then he's comparable to Jango.
As far as placing Canderous, I'd say in a terrain without cover, he could take out Boba or Jango, just because of his heavy weaponry that could take them down. However, Jango/Boba would be more useful in a fight because of their greater versatility. Canderous is tough as nails and badass, but let's face it, he's just a heavy gun and a good eye. Jango has mobility, a missile, poisonous darts, spores, a grappling hook, blades, a flamethrower, and god knows what else. Canderous has more firepower and against specific opponents may be better, but Jango is, for the most part, more handy.
Anyway, as far as the fight goes, if Anakin or Obi Wan is able to defeat or disable their opponent out of the fight long enough to make their way over to Mandalore while deflecting his shots, Mandalore isn't getting away alive. This would most likely be Asajj who could be defeated. The only time Durge was outclassed was when Anakin beat him up with the force, but if this happened, it would leave clear shots for Mandalore. So, if Anakin fights Durge, while taking some of Mandalores fire and using Durge as cover, Kenobi can fight Asajj. In the meantime Obi Wan takes a while to defeat her, but once he does, he uses his Soresu mastery to deflect Mandalores shots, and work his way over to him. Then, Obi Wan takes out Mandalore. They then attack Durge together and find a way to beat him. The Jedi could win like this, I believe.
Originally posted by jollyjim311yea but whoever is fighting durge will die. Durge has enough weaponry to kill any jedi. Plus mandolore, a good eye and a big gun, can shoot at the jedi fighting durge. with durge and mandalore, the jedi cant win. After that the trio can team up on the last remaining jedi.
As far as placing Canderous, I'd say in a terrain without cover, he could take out Boba or Jango, just because of his heavy weaponry that could take them down. However, Jango/Boba would be more useful in a fight because of their greater versatility. Canderous is tough as nails and badass, but let's face it, he's just a heavy gun and a good eye. Jango has mobility, a missile, poisonous darts, spores, a grappling hook, blades, a flamethrower, and god knows what else. Canderous has more firepower and against specific opponents may be better, but Jango is, for the most part, more handy.Anyway, as far as the fight goes, if Anakin or Obi Wan is able to defeat or disable their opponent out of the fight long enough to make their way over to Mandalore while deflecting his shots, Mandalore isn't getting away alive. This would most likely be Asajj who could be defeated. The only time Durge was outclassed was when Anakin beat him up with the force, but if this happened, it would leave clear shots for Mandalore. So, if Anakin fights Durge, while taking some of Mandalores fire and using Durge as cover, Kenobi can fight Asajj. In the meantime Obi Wan takes a while to defeat her, but once he does, he uses his Soresu mastery to deflect Mandalores shots, and work his way over to him. Then, Obi Wan takes out Mandalore. They then attack Durge together and find a way to beat him. The Jedi could win like this, I believe.
Originally posted by jollyjim311
As far as placing Canderous, I'd say in a terrain without cover, he could take out Boba or Jango, just because of his heavy weaponry that could take them down. However, Jango/Boba would be more useful in a fight because of their greater versatility. Canderous is tough as nails and badass, but let's face it, he's just a heavy gun and a good eye. Jango has mobility, a missile, poisonous darts, spores, a grappling hook, blades, a flamethrower, and god knows what else. Canderous has more firepower and against specific opponents may be better, but Jango is, for the most part, more handy.
Canderous is also skilled with a vibrosword, as was common for Mandalorians of that time. Jango is far inferior to Canderous in melee. Flame throwers don't work against Jedi of Anakin and Obi-wans power, as we saw in AOTC and the clone Wars.
Well yes, but canonically we don't see Canderous carrying around a vibrosword, so in this match he doesn't have one, just his heavy repeating rifle.
The key to Obi Wan and Anakin's victory would be one of them fighting Asajj alone and defeating her quickly, which most likely won't happen. It could, but it would be tough, I keep having second and third thoughts about the match. Anakin was getting beaten by Durge until Anakin used the force and environment to his advantage. This won't be easy if Mandalore is pumping out fire at him. Maybe if Anakin defeated Asajj quickly while Obi Wan went purely defensive against Mandalore and Durge, until Anakin could help him. Sorry for the change of ideas, but this match is close, that's probably why I made it, huh?
Originally posted by jollyjim311
Well yes, but canonically we don't see Canderous carrying around a vibrosword, so in this match he doesn't have one, just his heavy repeating rifle.
You misread my post. I said that Mandalorians of his time were commonly trained in the use of vibroswords, which is true. Therefor, Canderous having a vibrosword is canon.
The Mandalorians DID practice hand to hand, melee, and ranged weaponry, along with war tactics and naval combat. And Canderous lead over all of them. So he's easily the top Mandalorian in any or all of these fields, or at least second or third. Mandalorian leadership philosophy requires -extreme- battle prowess.
Yeah, I realize he is trained with a vibrosword, but it's not typical for him to be carrying one around. Unless you give him one in either KOTOR game, he will always have a heavy rifle. I mean, Anakin is an amazing pilot, but he shouldn't get his ship for this fight. Mandalore just has his heavy rifle.