Originally posted by GODOFALL1
And id rather have instant transmission than pure speed. That is a way greater power right? I mean goku uses IT when he fights. He thinks, there he is. That is a much better advantage than someone who is fast, right?
No to use IT goku has to lock on to the ki of the area he want's to be, it has limits though he can't travel to far with it.
Originally posted by GODOFALL1
What are you talking about? He can instant transmission from planet to planet. And there are numerous times (battle with Cooler) where he and cooler both use IT while battling and its awesome, b/c it is..........instant, far greater than someone who can fly fast or run fast.
The battle with cooler is not canon, none of the movies are and he can't travel too far like the time when he was on kao shins planet and couldn't IT to namek.
PIS is Plot induced stupidity.
When a character has abilities that can overcome a situation but doesn't use them because of the plot
An example of PIS is silever surfer being K.O ed by a brick or Toyman being a threat to superman.
Originally posted by GODOFALL1
Man, no offense, but Goku can just take to another level. He's just intense. As far as superman 1million and not needing a yellow sun and not affected by kryptonite(which is just GAY, now I know what you meant by a plot device whore) lol
And when goku takes it to a next level superman will pull out another plot device, like the sword of superman. superman wins 10/10
Plot Induced Stupidity............I like that. 🙂 That makes sense. B/c there is no way with their powers stripped in hand to hand combat Superman would win. It's impossible. Goku has trained ALL his life from kid to adult. And has been trained by masters of otherworld who have lived for 1000s of years. He has also battled warriors across the galaxy. So in a sense Goku probably has 10s of 1000's of years of training. I mean GET REAL, Goku once meditated for 3 days on top of a mountain preparing for a fight. Superman doesn't meditate. lol
Originally posted by GODOFALL1
Plot Induced Stupidity............I like that. 🙂 That makes sense. B/c there is no way with their powers stripped in hand to hand combat Superman would win. It's impossible. Goku has trained ALL his life from kid to adult. And has been trained by masters of otherworld who have lived for 1000s of years. He has also battled warriors across the galaxy. So in a sense Goku probably has 10s of 1000's of years of training. I mean GET REAL, Goku once meditated for 3 days on top of a mountain preparing for a fight. Superman doesn't meditate. lol
When did gouku medidtate for 3 days, superman would win goku does not have 1000 yrs of experience and training in rhe martial arts stripped of there abilities supes should win.
Originally posted by GODOFALL1
SWORD OF SUPERMAN?
Makes him one with the universe...
He was preparing for a tournament in OtherWorld. I just dont see how Superman could beat Goku in a fair hand to hand fight. That is all Goku does, is TRAIN! Superman has a hard enough time juggling his secret identity. What I meant was Goku has had to have had WAY better and tougher training than Superman. And when your masters are someone who has lived for 1000's of years you are going to accumulate a wealth of info. However, whatever. Superman doesn't do any martial arts ever, b/c he doesn't know how. As far as the PIS thing, that is the best excuse I've heard for Superman not doing certain things or doing certain things for that matter.
Originally posted by GODOFALL1
He was preparing for a tournament in OtherWorld. I just dont see how Superman could beat Goku in a fair hand to hand fight. That is all Goku does, is TRAIN! Superman has a hard enough time juggling his secret identity.
Superman has more experience, sorry he wins.
Originally posted by GODOFALL1
What I meant was Goku has had to have had WAY better and tougher training than Superman. And when your masters are someone who has lived for 1000's of years you are going to accumulate a wealth of info. However, whatever. Superman doesn't do any martial arts ever, b/c he doesn't know how. As far as the PIS thing, that is the best excuse I've heard for Superman not doing certain things or doing certain things for that matter.
Sorry but your wrong, it doesn't matter how good your master is just because he can fight doesn't mean he can teach you to fight the same. he can show you moves and such but it doesn't mean you can be like him. experience goes a long way and superman just has more unfortunately.
Originally posted by GODOFALL1
Now, where the heck did superman get the sword of Superman?
It came from space.
Experience doesn't make a great fighter. I myself am a martial artists and have studied for many years. But my first sparring ever was with a black belt and he got beat down. He had way more experience but it did not matter. You are either born a fighter or your not. Goku has spent his whole life literally training, no job, no electric bill, no water bills, just training and training. So Superman may have more experience but he'd get it handed to him in a martial arts fight. And if you really can sit there and argue.........you're lost too bud. I've read many comics, seen many movies, etc. etc. etc. and there is no way Superman is better hand to hand. That's crazy.
Originally posted by GODOFALL1
And id rather have instant transmission than pure speed. That is a way greater power right? I mean goku uses IT when he fights. He thinks, there he is. That is a much better advantage than someone who is fast, right?
Well knowing superman, he will get it also.
Originally posted by GODOFALL1
Is AllStar Superman is current form now? If not, what and when was that and what is his current form now?
He's not canon.
Originally posted by GODOFALL1
Experience doesn't make a great fighter. I myself am a martial artists and have studied for many years. But my first sparring ever was with a black belt and he got beat down. He had way more experience but it did not matter. You are either born a fighter or your not. Goku has spent his whole life literally training, no job, no electric bill, no water bills, just training and training. So Superman may have more experience but he'd get it handed to him in a martial arts fight. And if you really can sit there and argue.........you're lost too bud. I've read many comics, seen many movies, etc. etc. etc. and there is no way Superman is better hand to hand. That's crazy.
That's BS experience and training does make someone a better fighter, people like morhei ueshiba weren't born fighters.
Originally posted by GODOFALL1
Well, Goku has definitely hands down trained way harder and longer and tougher than Superman and I think that would be his best advantage. As far as superman not being affected by kryptonite and doesn't need the sun and has the sword of Superman......well, I guess that's PIS at its finest, right?
I just told you superman trained longer than goku 🙁
PIS is when the character doesn't use his full abilities in a situation that he should be able to overcome, it's like me shooting superman with a firearm and he has to go to the hospital.
You get me something that says or shows superman training for 1000 years and i'll say ok. Until then, he can't fight and that's probably why the Thundercat knocked him down, thats probably why Skeletor almost killed him and thats probably why he couldn't take He-Mand and thats defintitely why he lost to Doomsday. You don't have martial arts experience and not use it. That's stupid. He just isn't a martial artists, no matter if he did train longer than Goku. And even so, it wouldn't even be a percent of difficutly as to what Goku went thru. No comparison. YOu know what? Im starting to think Superman is the MOST OVER RATED Superhero ever!!