thanks for the comments guys.
Duc, on combining the files, yeah i thought about that, but i really wanted to add in the missing cue where Bail and Yoda fly off in the speeder to bridge the two together. which is why i was asking if anyone has it to let me know, i haven't come across a good no fx copy of that cue yet. but if enough of you guys want a cut combining the two into a single track, sure, i can do it.
aj, you did a fantastic job putting together the full movie score, and were it not for the work you've done and for the edits i've gotten from a couple other guys, i wouldn't have even attempted to do an edit myself, so thank you.
it's just that with the duel sequence and the opening battle over coruscant being my favorites, i'm a bit obsessed with creating perfect tracks for those sequences.
so, i don't take any criticism personally, i just want to get it right, and i hope you feel the same way.
i listened to my track and your track again, and think i get what you're referring to.
on the first bar, i don't think it was looped, but it may not be the best copy as there's what seems to be a slight clipping that occurs at about 4.5 seconds, and i can't say at what bit rate the original source was encoded at, but that may account for any "mechanical" sound you're hearing.
in my defense, as i mentioned earlier, this first 20 second sequence i didn't edit at all, i used a cue from another file. i should point out here, though, that the cue i used and the cue you used are not the same.
the 20 sec opening cue i used has the original unaltered percussion throughout the clip.
your cue here, and correct me if i'm mistaken, sounds to me like the cue from the cd, but you've added an overlay sequence of drum beats to compensate for what wasn't there, namely the percussion they removed/mixed waaaay down on the cd track.
i think this accounts for why Duc was saying the tympani were too high here in your file. it sounds to me like you also used the same drumbeat clip throughout your file to recreate the percussion in the other sequences, where anakin and obi-wan fight without their lightsabers and where yoda and sidious begin fighting. this is actually what made me want to remix my edit, because your bass didn't have enough kick in it.
on the part where yoda loses his lightsaber, yes, i noticed you did put in an extra "dum-dum-dum-de-dum" in your edit. however, there are actually two of those that were missing. the original duel of the fates track has nine repetitions. your file has ten. the movie had eleven. i put eleven into my edit. you can hear the sequence at approx. 5:33 in the file.
there are several other sections where similar repetitions occur that were cut from the cd track. i've recreated almost all of these in my file so they match the film. there were a couple i couldn't do, because the source simply wouldn't accommodate it. it just isn't possible to recreate what is missing using only what is there.
i can point out to you exactly where in the file i've added repetitions/lengthened sequences if you'd like, also where there are still a couple lengthened sequences missing.
on the off tempo drumbeats, yes, i realize in terms of the music they do not exactly follow "on the beat" in the film. i was referring to the drumbeats in your edit being off the tempo of the drumbeats in the film score, not off the tempo of the music.
where you've put the drumbeats in actually sounds perfectly fine in the overall context of the piece, and probably would have been to me as well had i not watched this sequence so many times that i could tell it was off immediately when i heard it. yours was, though, the first edit i heard where anyone actually even tried to put the drumbeats back in at all, so props to you.
i understand you "putting them where they should be so to speak", the only problem i have with it is that it doesn't match the film, so i redid it.
whether they were put in by John Williams or not is immaterial to me, i absolutely love the way it sounds with the drums as opposed to without. so for me, having them is a must, and timing them correctly to match the film is also a must.
i also thought the clip you used for the beat was pitched too high, so i used a different beat with more punch in the bass. i feel like it took the sound in the right direction, but any comments you guys have are helpful.
again, if anyone has better unaltered source cuts for sections of these tracks, please share, let's make this perfect.