you can't really tell who's more agile spiderman or beast, you have to realize that spiderman got his spidersense so he would know that danger is comming before beast does so he would react faster.
And why kingpin can take a win over spiderman and why I believe beast can take kingpin is because kingpins weight wouldn't have a affect on beast because beast only weighs 40 lbs less than kingpin so they are both very bulky, but still beast is the faster, stronger and he is more agile than kp.
http://www.marveldatabase.com/wiki/index.php/Beast_%28Hank_McCoy%29
Looking at this character bio, I think beast will win very easy.
Originally posted by jrodslam
Yes i did.😄Kingpin fought Batman in the "King of New York" crossover.
no he didn't beat him, he supprised Batman but the bat prevailed.
anywho the Beast is better in just about every aspect when is comes down to a fist fight.
Beast ststs ...
Superhuman Strength: He posses superhuman strength class 30(30 tons). He is strong enough to smash through a brick wall with a single blow and he can tie barbells in a knot.
Superhuman Agility: He has the agility of a great ape and the acrobatic prowess of the most accomplished circus aerialist and acrobat. Ha can walk a tightrope or a slack rope as easily as most people can walk on a sidewalk. He can walk on his hands for many hours, or perform a complicated sequence of gymnastic stunts such as flips, rolls, and springs. He can easily match or top any Olympic record at gymnastics apparatus (such as flying rings, climbing ropes, horizontal bars, trampolines).
Superhuman Endurance: His stamina is approximately triple that of a well-trained athlete in his prime.
Superhuman Speed: The Beast is quite fast, able to run on all four at approximately 40 miles per hour for short sprints.
Superhuman Dexterity: he can perform many tasks with his feet as easily as a human would do with his hands. His manual and pedal dexterity is so great that he can write using both hands at once or tie knots in rope with his toes.
Superhuman Durability: His physiology is durable enough to permit him to take a three-story fall without a broken bone or strain (providing he lands on his feet).
Accelerated Healing: powers that allow him to repair mild to moderate injuries within the span of a few hours, whereas ordinary humans might require many days.He can recover quickly from minor ailments such as colds.
Enhanced Senses: possesses Enhanced acute senses that are comparable to those of certain animals, enabling him to see and hear distant objects more clearly than a normal human, and identify and track someone purely by scent. He also possesses cat-like night-vision.
Pheremones: ability to secrete pheromones to attract members of the opposite sex
Claws: possesses razor-sharp claws on both his hands and his feet.
Known Abilities: Henry McCoy possesses a genius-level intellect and is an accomplished scientist and scholar. He is a world-renowned geneticist and is considered a leader in the field of human mutation: a peer of Professor Xavier, Moira McTaggart, and Kavita Rao. He is also an expert in the fields of chemistry, physics, electronics, and computer science. McCoy has a great familiarity with the canon of English literature and poetry. The most literate and eloquent of the X-Men, Hank is in possession of a million-dollar vocabulary. He is even a keyboard piano virtuoso!
The beast is an excellent hand-to-hand fighter. While not martially trained, his honed acrobatic skills and feral instincts lend him remarkable grace and talent in combat.
Strength Level: Beast can lift at least 30 tons.
Originally posted by complexbrother
no he didn't beat him, he supprised Batman but the bat prevailed.anywho the Beast is better in just about every aspect when is comes down to a fist fight.
First off, if you go back and READ my answer post and the question post i was relpying to, youd see that the question was "Did you say Kingpin fought Batman?" and my post was "Yes he did."
Secondly, you may have forgot or just didnt read the comic, but Batman did NOT beat Kingpin. They were stalemated and when Daredevil beat Scarecrow, he and Batman left the scene.
Thirdly, Beasts stats are nice and all, but doesnt prove that hed beat Kingpin in a fight.
People here rely to much on well he could beat batman so well he should beat him I say no that's not the case.
I mean this may sound very strange and silly but I'll try to explain.
You got batman who's 6+ maybe??? how much does he weigh?? 230 max maybe more but not much more, against kingpin 6.7 and weighs 430 maybe even 450???
So kingpin will use his weight in a fight (I know he's a great fighter very fast for a man his size, don't get me wrong he is.)
Now we got beast who's current maybe 6.0? I believe he's bigger well the lion version is I mean he towers over gambit and cyclops who are both 6.2 I believe, but well let's say he's 6+ aswell.
current they don't really know how much he weighs but going from marvel he's 5,11 and weighs 402 so he's quit big himself he's very big in the shoulders so kingpin would have a harder time trying to use his mass against beast.
So my question would be how he could beat beast?
Thing about what you said B, is that when Kingpin fights beings like Spiderman, Batman, Daredevil, Captain America, he doesnt just rely on his strength. He uses his agility and speed for the most part. Thats why he always catches his opponents off guard and confuses them. When he grabs them, THATS when he applies the strength. Kingpin is all muscle and is able to take hits quite well from Spiderman, Daredevil etc.
A persons height and weight doesnt have much to do with their strength. Its all about how much they train. There are characters who are shorter and weigh less than Kingpin and could lift just as much as he can. Beast is big in stature but not bigger than Kingpin. If KP were to get a hold of him, one could say it may possibly be a bit harder keeping it on, but that isnt likely due to his long/big arms. Arms of shich Spderman himself struggle to get out of.
Ive mentioned how KP could win, but noone has stated how beast would win.
Originally posted by jrodslam
Beasts stats are nice and all, but doesnt prove that hed beat Kingpin in a fight.
So you are gonna overlook the fact that Beast is stronger, faster, more agile etc? 😕
I consider that to be very important in the outcome of a fight.
plus Beast doesn't have bad feats either. We have already mentioned he single handedly ( He was actually handicapped by looking after Xavier) defeated a robot designed to take out all the X-men including himself, by simply outsmarting the robot.
If thats not impressive I don't know what is..............
Originally posted by willRules
So you are gonna overlook the fact that Beast is stronger, faster, more agile etc? 😕
So is Spiderman(stronger and faster), Captain America(same strength, faster), Batman(faster, slightly weaker) and Daredevil(faster, slightly weaker). Whats your point. Kingpin has beat 3 out of 4 of the people i just mentioned. All who are stronger, faster and more agile etc. 😄
Originally posted by willRules
I consider that to be very important in the outcome of a fight.
All those stats CAN be very important in the outcome of a fight.
Originally posted by willRules
plus Beast doesn't have bad feats either. We have already mentioned he single handedly ( He was actually handicapped by looking after Xavier) defeated a robot designed to take out all the X-men including himself, by simply outsmarting the robot.If thats not impressive I don't know what is..............
Actually, Beast wasnt handicapped at all when fighting Danger. He was trying to get Prof to safety BEFORE danger encountered him and Prof. Then when it/she did, Beast dropped Prof and attacked Danger. Hardly impressive considering he gave Danger a slash then caught Prof and let him go onto the ground. At that time, Danger seemed stunned and didnt even attack. Beast then clawed and bit at her while Prof was watching from the ground. Beast wasnt handicapped at all. Plus after taking a wing off and a bit of clawing(in which Danger never appeared to be fighting back), Beast shut her down.
You say beast outsmarted her, but he didnt. His cat instincts took over. Plus like i said she wasnt even fighting back. Hardly impressive. Impressive is besting Captain America, Daredevil, Spiderman in h2h combat. All in which who have fought back and lost.
Originally posted by Brutacus
ow and second jordslam I know he's fast and surprises people but I was really trying to say he needs to use other tactics to fight beast. his size doesn't work he, and you have to admit even thow he uses his speed he also use his size advantage a lot.
Actually, he really doesnt need to use other tactics when fighting beast. He still has a size advantage over Hank and can use that. And yes KP does use his size advantage alot, but thats ONLY usually when he gets his hands on his opponent. Otherwise, he uses his speed and skill.
Originally posted by Brutacus
well so he has to bearhug a guy who is like kp 400+ lbs muscle.
Who has claws that can cut metal, he can't strangle beast fast enough, beast would be able to strenght his way out of it.
And he got better stamina so he could keep up a fight longer than kp so he could dodge kp untill kp get's tierd.
I do believe that Kingpin can get his arms around Beast. Secondly Beast isnt faster or stronger than Spiderman in which Kingpin has grabbed and bearhugged.