Originally posted by Mider
yeah wolverine beats slade BULL, wolvie gets the staff ramed down his throat, he dodges storms lightning, and if she uses wind, he shoots her out of the sky, why not did it to zatanna before she could even talk not PIS he is that damn fast, slices kitty with the prometiam sword can she phase through promethium or energy like his energy sword, beast, gets shot down as well, x and emma seem to be the hard ones, and i dont even know what was so bad about that fight in IC (havent read it) what the hell did he do that sucked so much, and green arrow beating deathstroke is PIS wonder why no one talks about that since DS beats up on batman like nothing
slade energy sword can no harm kitty when she fazing. If you had actauly ever picked up a x-men comic u would know this.
why is it PIS when death stroke beats slade?
Fact of the matter is to me people on these forums are willing to accept Slades feats as legit but Wolverines as Pis. Frankly I don't see it this way. They both have uber showing and I think its pretty even between them only with Wolverine having more lower showing because hes in every comic basically
Originally posted by Big Sexy
and against the X-men Slades ass is grass
He has a week to plan and his main target is Xavier, he would avoid confrontations to take out his target................the likelyhood of him gettins stopped would be slim not because of powers but because he wouldn't stop to fight all the x-men only prevent them from setting off alarms.
I would give the Xavier hit to Deathstroke over 50% of the time with a week of prep. Realizing he doesn't need to "beat" all the x-men to achieve his contract.
Originally posted by Big Sexy
Green Arrow beat Deathstroke
Nightwing beat Deathstroke
Batman with prep also beat Deathstroke
During IC an exhausted Batman and Nightwing beat deathstroke
Nightwing didn't defeat Deathstroke, just stopped his plan and ran off, left a note saying he'd be back for him.
Batman - who HASN'T Batman beaten?
Nightwing, Batman, and Robin, all teamed up on him in Crisis 7.
But lets not forget that Deathstroke was probably worn too, given that he was shown fighting probably more than any of them in Crisis 1-7, and maybe even combined... I recall him fighting Uncle Sam's team, being there when Human Bomb blew up.. all his appearances in Villains United. He even killed a pride of lions. Deathstroke was all over the board. He was in combat nearly every time we saw him.
Slade will lose if he takes on any of the X-Men face to face. If he is caught, it's immediately game over for him, as the telepaths will mind wipe him.(Even with the TP blockers)
His only option is to first sneak into the mansion, sneak up behind and take out both the telepaths at the same time. After that he takes out each X-Man through sneak attacks. That's assuming Wolverine doesn't smell him first, cause if he does, Slade loses as his cover is blown = Mind Wipe.
Originally posted by ExodusCloak
Slade will lose if he takes on any of the X-Men face to face. If he is caught, it's immediately game over for him, as the telepaths will mind wipe him.(Even with the TP blockers)His only option is to first sneak into the mansion, sneak up behind and take out both the telepaths at the same time. After that he takes out each X-Man through sneak attacks. That's assuming Wolverine doesn't smell him first, cause if he does, Slade loses as his cover is blown = Mind Wipe.
That sounds about right
Originally posted by Juntai
Green Arrow didn't defeat him in straight up combat, it was a perfect set-up. Slade still almost beat him.Nightwing didn't defeat Deathstroke, just stopped his plan and ran off, left a note saying he'd be back for him.
Batman - who HASN'T Batman beaten?
Nightwing, Batman, and Robin, all teamed up on him in Crisis 7.
But lets not forget that Deathstroke was probably worn too, given that he was shown fighting probably more than any of them in Crisis 1-7, and maybe even combined... I recall him fighting Uncle Sam's team, being there when Human Bomb blew up.. all his appearances in Villains United. He even killed a pride of lions. Deathstroke was all over the board. He was in combat nearly every time we saw him.
As far as the whole speed thing wolverine has on a few occassions shown to be with a speed like slades but he has gotten pretty lazy and rather than dodge, he takes it and lets the healing factor handle the rest. Anyway for this thread hes not supposed to fight that way anyway. You don't take punches from guys with over class 100 strenght without earning a little respect. I think people don't accept the fact that though Wolverine has many PIS showings, He has a consistent amount not to call them all pis and that puts his on slades level to me. This is just my opinion though.
Originally posted by Big SexyWolverine has shown himself to be on a level with Deathstroke many times. He doesn't show as many speed feats these days because quite frankly he can just take 80% of his enemies on pure healing factor. A new speed feat is in Wolverine Origins #3. He easily backflips out of the way of automatic gunfire from point blank range and runs circles around Nuke, a super soldier with Super Speed and enhanced reflexes.
As far as the whole speed thing goes...
Originally posted by riceroostYou know what people are going to say
Wolverine has shown himself to be on a level with Deathstroke many times. He doesn't show as many speed feats these days because quite frankly he can just take 80% of his enemies on pure healing factor. A new speed feat is in Wolverine Origins #3. He easily backflips out of the way of automatic gunfire from point blank range and runs circles around Nuke, a super soldier with Super Speed and enhanced reflexes.
"He shoooun't be able to do that"
Slade wins
Thats everones answer to wolverine.
Originally posted by Big SexyI've been arguing Wolverine's case long enough to know that. Hell, none of them can accept that Wolverine can stand up to the 100 tonners, yet he's been doing that since 1974.
You know what people are going to say"He shoooun't be able to do that"
Slade winsThats everones answer to wolverine.
In response to them I say - what good are slade's swords, grenades, and guns against Wolverine? All of Slade's weapons are pretty useless against Wolverine. Even if they dont delieve Wolverine is as fast as Deathstroke they can't deny that Wolverine can just flat out soak up everything Deathstroke throws at him. The only meeting these 2 ever had proved that Wolverine can easily hang with Deathstroke. Add an entire team of X-Men to that and he stands 0% chance of completing his mission.
Deathstroke went down against Deadshot in Villians United after what-2 or 3 bullets?
If this wasn't the cuddly grandfather Wolverine people would never doubt that he could take Deathstroke.
Originally posted by riceroost
I've been arguing Wolverine's case long enough to know that. Hell, none of them can accept that Wolverine can stand up to the 100 tonners, yet he's been doing that since 1974.In response to them I say - what good are slade's swords, grenades, and guns against Wolverine? All of Slade's weapons are pretty useless against Wolverine. Even if they dont delieve Wolverine is as fast as Deathstroke they can't deny that Wolverine can just flat out soak up everything Deathstroke throws at him. The only meeting these 2 ever had proved that Wolverine can easily hang with Deathstroke. Add an entire team of X-Men to that and he stands 0% chance of completing his mission.
Deathstroke went down against Deadshot in Villians United after what-2 or 3 bullets?
If this wasn't the cuddly grandfather Wolverine people would never doubt that he could take Deathstroke.
You forgot that Deathstroke gets a weeks prep and that he doesn't need to confront any of the X-Men directly to complete his mission.(Cause if he did he'd get slaughtered immediately, by mind blasts)
All he needs to do is take everyone out with sneak attacks.(Starting with both Telepaths. If he takes out anyone else first he goes down, because Emma and Xavier will immediately realize someones been knocked unconscience) He has a TP blocker that will cloak him from the Telepaths radar but won't make him immune to their attacks if his cover is blown.(Emma has already shown us how useless these devices are). So if he can take out both Telepaths similtaneously through sneak attacks and then take out the rest of the X-Men individually through sneak attacks. Only then does he have a chance.
The only problem I see with that plan is Wolverines heightened sense of smell. If Wolvey can sniff him out as soon as Slade walks onto the premises, then Slade loses because the Telepaths will immediately mind wipe him. If Slade can find away around this little problem then he can take it.
They also have pretty good security at the mansion.http://www.marveldirectory.com/misc/xmansion.htm