Cyclops vs Deathstroke

Started by Darth Martin6 pages
Originally posted by Big Sexy
A flash sees everything in super slow motion. Before slade could move Flash would merc him. Slade couldn't dream of seein things like the flash. And as far as slade stabbing flash, thats garbage, A flash could move around the earth in a second without crashing into anything yet he runs into slades sword. That is seriously PIS

First off, DS had lots of prep and with his Super Brain Power he carefully planned out and calculated the possible outcomes with Wally. Second, Wally can not reach lightspeed unless he goes in a very straight line for an extended amount of time. DS knew this took advantage of it and planted bombs zig-zag style to slow wally down and he had to come around and straight up to slade and before he could react he went right in to slades sword(He was goping to fast for his own self).It's nothing new either, DS has been dealing wih flash familyt for as long as he has been messin wit the TT. Besides, running zig-zag and turning around then running straight is alot different than running all the way round the world. People say DS can react with him for the first few seconds. True. But in that sequence he didn't even make a move he was like that the whole time. He had it all planbned out.

I could easily make a claim that wolverine woud beat slade saying that he is as fast as Spiderman, is strong enough to almost kill an angry hulk, and survive a nuke. You see it just doesn't make sense.

Originally posted by Blair Wind
when slade can dodge this he wins:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v97/howdysaysthedrow/X-Men/Blast1.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v97/howdysaysthedrow/X-Men/Blast2.jpg

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Touche 😛

Originally posted by Darth Martin
First off, DS had lots of prep and with his Super Brain Power he carefully planned out and calculated the possible outcomes with Wally. Second, Wally can not reach lightspeed unless he goes in a very straight line for an extended amount of time. DS knew this took advantage of it and planted bombs zig-zag style to slow wally down and he had to come around and straight up to slade and before he could react he went right in to slades sword(He was goping to fast for his own self).It's nothing new either, DS has been dealing wih flash familyt for as long as he has been messin wit the TT. Besides, running zig-zag and turning around then running straight is alot different than running all the way round the world. People say DS can react with him for the first few seconds. True. But in that sequence he didn't even make a move he was like that the whole time. He had it all planbned out.
Dude I have seen scans of flash starting with that spedd outright so he can do it without running in a straight line. You still believe it, post a slade for flash with prep, the flash fans will jump on you faster than Paris Hilton at an orgy.

Big sexy Wolverine is a completely different character then Slade and is portrayed very differently.
Your notion about the speedforce is out of whack because then people like Superman couldn't exist because he is really fast and all that but he is not connected to the speedforce. And Slade's original upgrade was 10 times he has become alot stronger since then.

Overall unless DS can get in H2H range, Cyclops takes it 😛

yep, yep

Originally posted by newjak86
Big sexy Wolverine is a completely different character then Slade and is portrayed very differently.
Your notion about the speedforce is out of whack because then people like Superman couldn't exist because he is really fast and all that but he is not connected to the speedforce. And Slade's original upgrade was 10 times he has become alot stronger since then.
Its pretty much common knowledge that any fight with the flash that lasts more than a page is really PIs. Seriously check it out. Anyway, I can't stay an argue, I have a test tomorrow. Later dude.

Although I see ds getting lucky one time and getting a shot on cyke and then chopping his head off.

Originally posted by Big Sexy
I could easily make a claim that wolverine woud beat slade saying that he is as fast as Spiderman, is strong enough to almost kill an angry hulk, and survive a nuke. You see it just doesn't make sense.
Not really because Wolverine never killed an angry hulk just made him madder using his agility to stay out of reach. Wolverine has normal human durability and thus could not survive a nuke just DS could not survive a nuke.
On the other hand DS has shown the ability numerous times to see the world in slow motion and has been shown to be able to react to a flash.

he can do what? didnt he wally save an ENTIRE city in like .0001 seconds? that involved zig zags..

anyways Cycke needs but one shot and he can hit all over the place:
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/attachment.php?s=&postid=5779865

he tagged Northstar man:
http://img219.imageshack.us/my.php?image=000cwkcr1eu.jpg

all he needs to do for it to fire is open his eyes wide:
http://www.myonlineimages.com/Members/pr1983/images/visor%20opening.jpg

all these people had guns pointed at him and wolvie, one hit and they all went down:
http://img141.imageshack.us/img141/6161/cyclops56cd.jpg
http://img85.imageshack.us/img85/2564/cyclops68tc.jpg
http://img141.imageshack.us/img141/2659/cyclops72pn.jpg

His beams are too wide and can appear to fast for Slade to dodge ALL of them (bouncing back in forth) while he could be shooting off more blasts

Why does Slade have to get into close range. He has weapons that will kill Cyke just as easy as Cyke's blast could take him out and he is alot faster then cyke.

Originally posted by Blair Wind
he can do what? didnt he wally save an ENTIRE city in like .0001 seconds? that involved zig zags..

anyways Cycke needs but one shot and he can hit all over the place:
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/attachment.php?s=&postid=5779865

he tagged Northstar man:
http://img219.imageshack.us/my.php?image=000cwkcr1eu.jpg

all he needs to do for it to fire is open his eyes wide:
http://www.myonlineimages.com/Members/pr1983/images/visor%20opening.jpg

all these people had guns pointed at him and wolvie, one hit and they all went down:
http://img141.imageshack.us/img141/6161/cyclops56cd.jpg
http://img85.imageshack.us/img85/2564/cyclops68tc.jpg
http://img141.imageshack.us/img141/2659/cyclops72pn.jpg

His beams are too wide and can appear to fast for Slade to dodge ALL of them (bouncing back in forth) while he could be shooting off more blasts

All Slade needs is one shot.
Slade isn't NorthStar tryinf to run in and get close he can shoot him from far away as well.
Cyke for his power is still only human reaction time. Even if you don't like DS fighting a flash he is still over ten times faster than peak human and therefore will get off an attack way sooner than Cyke could.

I've never heard of Scott's blasts being lightspeed. Where does that come from?

Slade's blaster is probably very, very close in power to Cyclops' normal blasts. They both can disintegrate planes and literally turn tons of rock to sand in one blast. I've seriously seen Slade harm people with his blaster(when on it's higher levels) who are probably only a few steps below Superman's durability, seriously.

This could go either way if they start far away, if not it'll come down to who reacts first. One of the two here is under peak reaction speed and the other is many, many, many, many, many, many times above peak reaction speed.

deathstroke should just run past him and cut his head off.

Originally posted by Mider
deathstroke should just run past him and cut his head off.

visor comes off and then were is deathstroke gunna run?

Originally posted by capt it up
visor comes off and then were is deathstroke gunna run?

Slade is 10-15x faster than Cyclops. He can get to 'clops before he has time to take the visor off.

That simple.

He can shoot Cyclops with an energy blast before Scott can shoot him, and like I said, his Staff Blasts are on par with Scott's visored blasts.

Originally posted by Draco69
Everything concerning the Flash losing in the DCU is PIS. He should completely own every foe he meets.
Damn near. Flash is yet another victim of DC's "if you're not Bats, Supes or WW...........................F**k you!" rule.

If this is well written 'Stroke(Can't really stab Flash, but should beat the mess out of any non-meta w/ease) he should win more often than not because of the staff. Could be wrong though

Originally posted by long pig
Slade is 10-15x faster than Cyclops. He can get to 'clops before he has time to take the visor off.
No he can't.

Originally posted by brainchild81
Damn near. Flash is yet another victim of DC's "if you're not Bats, Supes or WW...........................F**k you!" rule.

If this is well written 'Stroke(Can't really stab Flash, but should beat the mess out of any non-meta w/ease) he should win more often than not because of the staff. Could be wrong though No he can't.


No one knows the limits of Slade's staff. We know it was able to totally turn an army helicopter to unregonizable dust in a single blast, then, that same staff's power was raised 600%.

No, Slade can't stab Flash without some nutty prep or PIS. Just like Batman can't hit Slade without some nutty prep or CIS or PIS.

Remember, when Batman fought Slade(both times), Batman HAD prep, he had days of it. He even called Nightwing to get info on the guy. Still, Slade was superior.

That says alot IMO.

No he can't

Why not?

Cyclops moves in slow motion. He would blast him pretty damn fast.

Ok, think about this:

Have you ever tried to catch a house fly with your hand? You know how hard it is? Well, they have 10x above human raction time. Even though they have no brain or weapons, you can hardly ever catch one.

Slade has 10x + + human reaction and a superhuman brain with weapons.

A near peak human catching Slade is akin to me shooting a genius level house fly who carries a small nuke. Impossible.