Elites vs. the 501st Legion

This is the 501st legion from Star Wars: Battlefront 2 in their prime versus the Elites. The battle takes place on Hoth. The leaders are Darth Revan(Imperials) and the Arbiter(elites).

The conditions are:

1: Elites only have blaster rifles, concussion rifles and vibroblades. (from KotOR)

2: No 'z0MG! i liek elites so tehy winz0rz!' comments, I want to see a serious debate on this matter.

3: Forces can only make 5 calls for reinforcements (150 units for reinforcement)

4: Obviously there are only ground forces in this fight.

5: Anything else is fair game.

Now who wins?

Since you've taken away the Elites weapons of choice from Halo, and their vehicles, I am siding with the 501st. The Hoth stage sees the imperials with massive vehicular backup, including the nigh on unstoppable AT ATs that are nearly impossible to kill withought the Air Support from the Snowspeeders.

The AT AT's particle cannons effectively garuntee massive death tolls for the under equipped Elites... Everything else is just icing on the proverbial cake.

dude the elite would smash

Nope. The other dude was right. AT-AT's=Pawnage.

Sab set it up one-sided. 😐

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Darth Revan? WTF? 🤨

Originally posted by Lana
Darth Revan? WTF? 🤨

What?

501st but if the Elites were well equiped... they would kick some clone @$$

Originally posted by KMC Dark Lord
What?

Massively wrong era. Revan lived like 4000 years before the 501st existed. Unless it's meant to be completely random and not connected to any sort of logic whatsoever.

Originally posted by Lana
Massively wrong era. Revan lived like 4000 years before the 501st existed. Unless it's meant to be completely random and not connected to any sort of logic whatsoever.

oh, yeah I thought that a bit odd myself...

Revan's a master strategist there is no way he would lose.

And why is Revan leading the legion anyway?

It is a bit one sided. Revan, being a Jedi with all his abilities and stratagy, vs Arbiter, which IIRC was just a grunt, not a leader. So leadership wise 501st walks away. That should be enough to call the fight right there, but since you took all of the Elites equipment away from them and gave them star wars gear, you further stack the deck in star wars favor.

Dont like Halo?

Originally posted by Onikirimaru
It is a bit one sided. Revan, being a Jedi with all his abilities and stratagy, vs Arbiter, which IIRC was just a grunt, not a leader. So leadership wise 501st walks away. That should be enough to call the fight right there, but since you took all of the Elites equipment away from them and gave them star wars gear, you further stack the deck in star wars favor.

Dont like Halo?

Why not give them Halo 2 vehicles?

I did this thread a short time ago on Spacebattles, if you want to Sabo, i'll sow you how I did the OP for it:

Originally posted by Darkstorm Zero
This is the 501st legion from Star Wars: Battlefront 2 in their prime versus the Elites. The battle takes place on the Hoth map from Battlefield 2. The conditions are:

1: Elites Get their usual Covenant weapons and Vehicles (NO Scarabs)

2: There are only ground forces in this fight. Exept for Banchees in place of Snowspeeders.

3: Anything else is fair game.

Now who wins?

Elite Weapons:
Plasma Rifle (Some carry two of these at a time)
Plasma Pistol (Again, some carry them in pairs)
Needlers (And Again)
Energy Swords
Covenant Carbines
Fuel Rod Launchers
Plasma Grenades
Active Cammoflage

Elite Vehicles:
Ghosts
Shades
Wraiths
Banshees
Phantoms
Spectres (These are the larger transporters in the Underground Highway that carry ghosts and are equipped with a single powerful Turrent)

The 501st get their usual stuff on the battle of Hoth map in Battlefront 2:

Imperial Weapons:
Blaster Rifles
Blaster Pistols
Rocket Launchers
Sniper Rifles
Blast Cannon
Fusion Cutter
Mortar Launcher
Sonic Gun
Arch Caster
Thermal Detonators
Mines
Auto Turret Dispensers
Det-pack
Health & Ammo Dispenser
Remote Droid.

Imperial Vehicles:
AT-ST
AT-AT

NEUTREAL VEHICLES:
Tauntaun
Hoth Tank Cannon Turret
Hoth Anti Vehicle Dish Turret
Tripod Mounted Blaster Turret
Covenant Plasma Turret

Oh yes, Only In Game Cannon counts in this thread, please refrain from bringing in outside game canon unless absolutely nessisary

Consider all contenders to be set at their maximum difficulty levels.

If you try it with those sets intact, everything is set as it should be for this forum, no questions would be asked about the OP stipulations

with darkstorms rules..this gets really interesting...hmm tough decision...should make a mod for it on star wars BF 2..if possible..

Originally posted by MadMel
with darkstorms rules..this gets really interesting...hmm tough decision...should make a mod for it on star wars BF 2..if possible..

I would love to see that, that would be awesome

But I digress, I still think that the 501st takes this, although under the rules I used it would be alot closer, fact is that the AT AT's here are very difficult to kill without tow cables, Concentrated fire on the AT AT's only vulnerability (The Neck, it's the AT AT's critical hit location) is viable, but it takes a long time, and the AT AT's Heavy Lasers and Particle Cannons will mop up any Covenant attempting to do this head on.

However, the Elites do have a number of things on their side... They get Air support, and they start with far more CPs, This will be a long and brutal fight, but eventually, the Elites won't do much better than the Rebels did on hoth, and they will fall.