Most powerful being ever is between:
Classic Beyonder - Could have erased the Multiverse anytime he wished, the hierarchy of Marvel didn't even bother attempting to stop him.
I would put Phoenix Force on par with him, but he was obviously more powerful than it, since it did exist in Beyonder's prime, and at that time Beyonder was the most powerful being in all existence.(Marvel)Molecule Man was the second, so he also was more powerful than the Phoenix Force. This status lasted from 1984 - to late 86', when he and Molecule Man were finally retconned.
Thanos with the Heart of the Infinite
He absorbed all the abstracts, including Living Tribunal and anyone else that challenged him, besides erasing nearly all existence. It also seems that the HOTU was trully the ultimate power achievable in Marvel. I'll repeat, SEEMED!
Now perhaps Phoenix was upgraded, cause in the latter years of Marvel, they made her restructure the 616 universe in her hands atom by atom.(Very impressive)and she also contained the M'Kraan Crystal from from destroying all existence in Marvel, with the help of some X-Men, but she deserves the majority of the credit, still I wonder if that feat would have been possible without those X-Men.
Originally posted by Mr Master
Most powerful being ever is between:Classic Beyonder - Could have erased the Multiverse anytime he wished, the hierarchy of Marvel didn't even bother attempting to stop him.
I would put Phoenix Force on par with him, but he was obviously more powerful than it, since it did exist in Beyonder's prime, and at that time Beyonder was the most powerful being in all existence.(Marvel)Molecule Man was the second, so he also was more powerful than the Phoenix Force. This status lasted from 1984 - to late 86', when he and Molecule Man were finally retconned.
Thanos with the Heart of the Infinite
He absorbed all the abstracts, including Living Tribunal and anyone else that challenged him, besides erasing nearly all existence. It also seems that the HOTU was trully the ultimate power achievable in Marvel. I'll repeat, SEEMED!
Now perhaps Phoenix was upgraded, cause in the latter years of Marvel, they made her restructure the 616 universe in her hands atom by atom.(Very impressive)and she also contained the M'Kraan Crystal from from destroying all existence in Marvel, with the help of some X-Men, but she deserves the majority of the credit, still I wonder if that feat would have been possible without those X-Men.
does this mean u r saying galactius would go down to Molecule Man?
i have stated that and was laughed out of the fourm
Originally posted by Mr MasterThe Beyonder was retconned, so I'm not sure she counts for much. I pretty much agree with you about Thanos with HOTU.
Most powerful being ever is between:Classic Beyonder - Could have erased the Multiverse anytime he wished, the hierarchy of Marvel didn't even bother attempting to stop him.
I would put Phoenix Force on par with him, but he was obviously more powerful than it, since it did exist in Beyonder's prime, and at that time Beyonder was the most powerful being in all existence.(Marvel)Molecule Man was the second, so he also was more powerful than the Phoenix Force. This status lasted from 1984 - to late 86', when he and Molecule Man were finally retconned.
Thanos with the Heart of the Infinite
He absorbed all the abstracts, including Living Tribunal and anyone else that challenged him, besides erasing nearly all existence. It also seems that the HOTU was trully the ultimate power achievable in Marvel. I'll repeat, SEEMED!
Now perhaps Phoenix was upgraded, cause in the latter years of Marvel, they made her restructure the 616 universe in her hands atom by atom.(Very impressive)and she also contained the M'Kraan Crystal from from destroying all existence in Marvel, with the help of some X-Men, but she deserves the majority of the credit, still I wonder if that feat would have been possible without those X-Men.
The Phoenix Force (not its Avatars) is in a balance of power between Eternity, Infinity, and Galactus. At full power, its hard to say which of these four are above the others. Living Tribunal, however, is clearly above them all.
Originally posted by He-guy88
does this mean u r saying galactius would go down to Molecule Man?
i have stated that and was laughed out of the fourm
If pre-retcon Molecule Man wanted to not just put down but wipe out from existence Galactus, then he could have, I say that with confidence.
Galactus was an insect to pre-retcon Molecule Man, just like he was LESS than an insect to pre-retcon Beyonder.
Originally posted by Acrosurge
The Beyonder was retconned, so I'm not sure she counts for much. I pretty much agree with you about Thanos with HOTU.The Phoenix Force (not its Avatars) is in a balance of power between Eternity, Infinity, and Galactus. At full power, its hard to say which of these four are above the others. Living Tribunal, however, is clearly above them all.
Which is exactly why I specified Pre-Retconned Beyonder or Classic Beyonder, which ever you prefer.
In any case imho, Classic Beyonder was trully the most powerful there has ever been in comics, for so many reasons.
Originally posted by Acrosurge
The Phoenix Force (not its Avatars) is in a balance of power between Eternity, Infinity, and Galactus. At full power, its hard to say which of these four are above the others. Living Tribunal, however, is clearly above them all.
I believe the Phoenix Force is above Living Tribunal, though I won't classify that as a fact. This opinion is based on feats.
Just think the Phoenix Force is the nexus of all psionic energy which does, has, and ever will, exist in all realities of the marvel multiverse.
Originally posted by MattDay
hay god at home in comics isnt he, they are all fictional characters anyway, god is as ficional as superman, iconic and revered but not real... like someone said aint the world f*cked up!
Must resist............ urge to............. spark off religious debate..........
IMO most powerful cosmic being? TOAA
