Originally posted by He-guy88It was Shazam's magic blasts, not Captain Marvel being more powerful. Notice when Superman was finally done, he reached over and grabbed him by the face, and Captain Marvel was basically helpless.
and if i recall in the kingdom come at the end it was shazam who knocked superman to the ground with one hit and saved the worled but hes better then shazaman
You'll notice Superman said he could save everyone, and stop the bomb.
But Captain marvel could stop him from doing it?
Notice that Captain marvel took the nuke and died, and notice that Supes was still standing in the blast radius?
Notice that the cover said ELSEWORLDS?
Originally posted by Juntai
You ever see Wolverine disolve illusions by opening his mouth and spitting white noise at 18 terahertz?Or punch a moon in two in one shot?
Or hold black holes?
Or push planets in orbit?
Or move so fast he boomtube teleports across the universe?
Originally posted by TheKahn
yes 😐
Originally posted by snoopdoggFrom Our Worlds at War... Brainiac if I remember right.
Avalon has a scan that says he is considered a cosmic being.
In the series before that, when Superman was training with Mongul and kept getting stronger and more powerful, Mongul told Superman that his powers have no limit, and he's truly infinite or something to that effect.
Originally posted by Juntai
It was Shazam's magic blasts, not Captain Marvel being more powerful. Notice when Superman was finally done, he reached over and grabbed him by the face, and Captain Marvel was basically helpless.You'll notice Superman said he could save everyone, and stop the bomb.
But Captain marvel could stop him from doing it?Notice that Captain marvel took the nuke and died, and notice that Supes was still standing in the blast radius?
Notice that the cover said ELSEWORLDS?
notice that does not change their powers or notice all a elesworld is is a comic that shows what it the world could have been like
Originally posted by He-guy88Elseworlds is not canon material. It has no bearing on what Superman and Captain Marvel are actually capable of.
notice that does not change their powers or notice all a elesworld is is a comic that shows what it the world could have been like
Originally posted by JuntaiI remember reading a MOS comic and Supes was on trial for some odd reason and Ganthet(I think) said he was a important part in the universe or something to that effect.
From Our Worlds at War... Brainiac if I remember right.In the series before that, when Superman was training with Mongul and kept getting stronger and more powerful, Mongul told Superman that his powers have no limit, and he's truly infinite or something to that effect.
I can't remember the issue though.
Superman is cosmic level, in the sense of Terrax and Morg and others being so. People that can destroy planets are normally considered cosmic class, since they can change the cosmos under their own power.
Hulk can be considered cosmic, as can Superman, WW, MM, Thor, Cap Marvel, Black Adam etc. They all squeak into the cosmic class at herald level.
Surfer alone, however, imo sets the bar for cosmic class, as Superman/Hulk do for upper tier strength.